Gay Parenting

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Dr. Wakefield is the "vaccines cause autism" guy right? Aka the lone study with what turned out to be falsified data that the a huge number of other researchers then disproved? He would be the walter schumm of this debate.

Anyway, I disagree with panzer about the consensus being as meaningful as he says it is. Scientific communities often make an incorrect assumption or are ignorant of something that discredits a wide array of research. I'm generally very supportive of skepticism of psychological research, but when I'm skeptical it's for a reason that I can argue for...

I think the whole thing is part of modern society's quest for a neutered and neutral social structure. And it does not bode well for the future.

See this is like what I said pages ago. Rhyf objected to panzer's studies on the basis that they found men raised by lesbians were more sexually restrained and less aggressive--and he thought that was bad. Your objection like I said a while back is something similar but you dance around actually saying what it is exactly. Something like "no lesbian couple will raise X kind of a man because he needs an X kind of man role model"?

[Beirut]

See this is like what I said pages ago. Rhyf objected to panzer's studies on the basis that they found men raised by lesbians were more sexually restrained and less aggressive--and he thought that was bad. Your objection like I said a while back is something similar but you dance around actually saying what it is exactly. Something like "no lesbian couple will raise X kind of a man because he needs an X kind of man role model"?

I am simply saying that a learning experience for a child that involves learning from both a man and a woman in the parental role is a richer and more beneficial experience for the child than what can be attained from only one sex.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I am simply saying that a learning experience for a child that involves learning from both a man and a woman in the parental role is a richer and more beneficial experience for the child than what can be attained from only one sex.

What's richer and more beneficial about it?

[bamff]

What's richer and more beneficial about it?

A good question. I could perhaps understand that it would be so if the two male (or female as the case may be) parents shared exactly the same characteristics, and if neither brought anything different to the table...but surely this is unlikely in the extreme. This would also appear to imply that children of single parents are inherently worse off, and that is not necessarily the case either.

[Beirut]

What's richer and more beneficial about it?

The fact that the during the child's crucial formulative years he/she/it can learn from, interact with, and be nurtured by, both a man and a woman.

Simple, clear, true.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The fact that the during the child's crucial formulative years he/she/it can learn from, interact with, and be nurtured by, both a man and a woman.

Simple, clear, true.

The crucial formative years for a child don't have anything to do with gender. There's an age where children have to "cement" the sounds of their native language in order to be able to hear them well at a later age, for example, and that's the kind of thing people mean when they say crucial formative years.