Unification of the Isles: Britannia Hotseat (completed, winners Myth and Zim)

**Myth** · 03-03-2011, 21:12

Ireland's save.

OK guys I found two exploits both by accident :) The first one is that in-game messages can be read by opening the save file (found that at work when I opened the one you guys said is corrupt).

The second exploit is that when a diplomat unit tries bribing an enemy settlement and is rejected your king gets one dread. Do this x number of times and you max out your dread for free in one turn.

I propose we don't use the in-game messaging system and that we agree to not abuse the diplomacy dread (diplodread?) thing as having a king with 10 dread for everyone is just silly.

**phonicsmonkey** · 03-03-2011, 23:19

Originally Posted by Myth

The first one is that in-game messages can be read by opening the save file (found that at work when I opened the one you guys said is corrupt).

Did you open it with a text editor or something?

Originally Posted by Myth

The second exploit is that when a diplomat unit tries bribing an enemy settlement and is rejected your king gets one dread. Do this x number of times and you max out your dread for free in one turn.

I'm fine with not using the in-game messaging. I don't like it anyway as there's no record of it for later (unless you do what myth did I guess). Maybe with the other thing, if people want to keep trying to bribe settlements (something I never bother with myself), we could say perhaps one bribe attempt per diplomat per turn as a guide?

PS. lol @ diplodread

**Nightbringer** · 03-04-2011, 00:33

Wales up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...205#linkid8799

**Myth** · 03-04-2011, 02:04

Eh, I spoke to Nightbringer - he said he hasn't messaged Wales. I suppose what i saw (yes I opened it with note pad) was actual camaign text a-la council missions, only made to look like diplomacy from the other nations. The bribe thing however - if you get an instance where you always get rejected (like say at the end of your turn when you are broke) this means that in 10-12 turns you can have a 10 dread general, and autocalc tends to favor that a lot. I'm not going to use this, i prefer a king wiht chiv instead.

**phonicsmonkey** · 03-04-2011, 02:12

Originally Posted by Myth

Eh, I spoke to Nightbringer - he said he hasn't messaged Wales.

NB, don't make me come over there....

**Nightbringer** · 03-04-2011, 05:28

**phonicsmonkey** · 03-04-2011, 05:38

Originally Posted by Nightbringer

Sorry, I misunderstood - thought you were up to your old tricks again and forgetting to send pms..

**Zim** · 03-04-2011, 06:16

Why would someone try opening a save with notepad?

Originally Posted by Myth

Eh, I spoke to Nightbringer - he said he hasn't messaged Wales. I suppose what i saw (yes I opened it with note pad) was actual camaign text a-la council missions, only made to look like diplomacy from the other nations. The bribe thing however - if you get an instance where you always get rejected (like say at the end of your turn when you are broke) this means that in 10-12 turns you can have a 10 dread general, and autocalc tends to favor that a lot. I'm not going to use this, i prefer a king wiht chiv instead.

**Nightbringer** · 03-04-2011, 07:53

Originally Posted by Myth

by opening the save file (found that at work when I opened the one you guys said is corrupt).

This is why I guess

**Zim** · 03-04-2011, 08:12

That's a what he did, not a why.

Fiddling with the saves in notepad strikes me as opening up all sorts of avenues for abuse. Or at least it would if the files didn't come up as gibberish in notepad.

Originally Posted by Nightbringer

This is why I guess

**Nightbringer** · 03-04-2011, 08:34

Originally Posted by Zim

That's a what he did, not a why.

Fiddling with the saves in notepad strikes me as opening up all sorts of avenues for abuse. Or at least it would if the files didn't come up as gibberish in notepad.

I think what he meant by that was that he was trying to figure out what was wrong with the save file.

**Myth** · 03-04-2011, 15:07

Basically yes it was stated the file is smaller. I opened it assuming I'd get gibberish (which i did) then I saw a wall of plain ol' English.

I double checked and I think it's actually Wales's correspondence, not a part of the actual game. I won't open any more saves but since I know it can be exploited I told you guys (rather than reading the messages quietly which would have been to my advantage). So you can trust in my honesty as a player :)

**Zim** · 03-04-2011, 20:11

I know what you were getting at. I just had never heard of someone opening a save in notepad in order to fix a corrupted save

Originally Posted by Nightbringer

I think what he meant by that was that he was trying to figure out what was wrong with the save file.

I didn't think you would have cheated and the posted about it. It just seemed curious to me to try to open a hotseat save. One of the earliest hotseats here was marred by at least one person messing with files (in this case his game files) and accusations that at least one or two others were doing something similar. No offense meant.

Originally Posted by Myth

Basically yes it was stated the file is smaller. I opened it assuming I'd get gibberish (which i did) then I saw a wall of plain ol' English.

I double checked and I think it's actually Wales's correspondence, not a part of the actual game. I won't open any more saves but since I know it can be exploited I told you guys (rather than reading the messages quietly which would have been to my advantage). So you can trust in my honesty as a player :)