An Occultus Faction possibly worked out?

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

Poor little misguided souls...

[Kuningaz]

Seeing the picture of Zoroaster on EB Twitter gave me the following idea:
How about Media Atropatene? The animal shown could well be a bull - a sacred animal in Zoroastrianism. After all M.A. was an independent kingdom at the time and also regarded as the center of Zoroastrianism...

[Populus Romanus]

Poor little misguided souls...

EBIILiez

[moonburn]

if it´s a bull then it´s the arevaci´s (did the celtiberians had that kind of art or style?) i mean seriously the arevaci have to be in the game both to block the lusitanii since the carthies are pansies aswell as to represent the iberian peninsula political division just as the eduii and the arverni do in gaul

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Maybe this is it? Celtiberian horse.

[eddy_purpus]

EB team members required to tell us!!!!
Is it?

[Populus Romanus]

EB team members required to tell us!!!!
Is it?

Don't bother. What ever they say is lies. Whenever a topic comes within 1,000,000,0000000,000 miles of occultus, their word is nigh. For instance, they claimed that the idea bobbin had at the start of this thread was wrong, when it was right. Don't trust them!

[Foot]

Don't bother. What ever they say is lies. Whenever a topic comes within 1,000,000,0000000,000 miles of occultus, their word is nigh. For instance, they claimed that the idea bobbin had at the start of this thread was wrong, when it was right. Don't trust them!

That was just a stalling tactic while we put together a preview on that faction. He got it right, and his reward was a preview.

Foot

[eddy_purpus]

Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God

Sooo...
Will the next preview be an Occultus Faction :3?

[ziegenpeter]

Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God

Sooo...
Will the next preview be an Occultus Faction :3?

Sly attempt, but your chances of getting any information are rather dwindeling with such behavior...

[Populus Romanus]

Sly attempt, but your chances of getting any information are rather dwindeling with such behavior...

Ziegenpeter=God
Ziegenpeter=God
Ziegenpeter=God

sooo...will the next preview be an Occultus faction?

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

Ziegenpeter=God
Ziegenpeter=God
Ziegenpeter=God

sooo...will the next preview be an Occultus faction?

Why would that help?
Ziegenpeter is not even an EB teammember.

Stop spamming and try to come up with some clever ideas for Occultus factions instead.

[ziegenpeter]

Why would that help?
Ziegenpeter is not even an EB teammember.

Or am I? An occult member maybe...

I think with the Boii already revealed, there will be maximum one more barbarian faction

[Tellos Athenaios]

Stop spamming and try to come up with some clever ideas for Occultus factions instead.

Especially since we're out of ideas. I mean porting EB 2 to Shogun II and adding naval battles really was a bit desperate. It's nice to play, but it lacks Occultus factions to tease you with.

[Brennus]

I think with the Boii already revealed, there will be maximum one more barbarian faction

I would guess there will be another two barbarian factions revealed, with the Aedui and Averni beginning EBII with only Bibracte and Gergovia that means there is alot of vacant space left in Western Europe not to mention the large area of Iberia which are currently unoccupied. Personally I am willing to bet we will see the Arevaci (definately) the Suessiones/Bellovaci/Nervii (likely) and maybe a second Germanic tribe (unlikely but nice).

[Ibrahim]

Why would that help?
Ziegenpeter is not even an EB teammember.

Stop spamming and try to come up with some clever ideas for Occultus factions instead.

don't you see? they're trying to bribe/be sycophantic to anyone who might know, so they feel flattered enough to say if their answer was right. you see, they did all the thinking even if it was all that of a jellyfish

anyways: I demands an Arabian faction! where is the preview to the Nabatu? I had a songbird perch by the window that told me all about it! songbirds are a sign of the truth!!!

ok, srsly: I really do think there may well be a Nabatu/other north Arabian faction: here's why:

1-the area above (northern Arabia) is not well factioned
2-I'm sure someone in EB would be interested to work on it-especially as a few members are also members of the Asia Ton Barbaron mini-mod (apologies to that group for not starting on some of those models: RL). Nabatu was one faction there.
3-they were-sorta-expansionistic. certainly more so than the Saba'yans.
4-there's enough research from archaeologists on the area; I'm too lazy to make a faction case thread though
5-a songbird really did perch by the window and say so.

[ziegenpeter]

if only clownfaces would be a mean to make factions happen...

[B-Wing]

Especially since we're out of ideas. I mean porting EB 2 to Shogun II and adding naval battles really was a bit desperate. It's nice to play, but it lacks Occultus factions to tease you with.

Oh, well then, what do you say we just agree that EB2's already got enough factions, and you guys can go ahead and release it?

If there must be an Occultus faction to be added, though, I would strongly suggest... the Kretans. You might be able to form that Occultus signature into a Minoan bull if you work it right. I'm afraid I don't have quite enough information to build a proper Faction Proposal thread, but I do recall this passage from the Bible: "Even one of their own men, a prophet from Crete, has said about them, 'The people of Crete are all liars, cruel animals, and lazy gluttons.' This testimony is true." - Titus, chapter 1
So, you know, you can start with that. And hey, there's already a unique archer unit for them! Starting territory shouldn't be a problem, either.



(yes, I'm joking)

[Ibrahim]

if only clownfaces would be a mean to make factions happen...

I never intended it to make factions "happen".

though in all seriousness, I do suspect that Nabatu is a faction that may be in the game.

[ziegenpeter]

That would make the whole region a lot more interesting, imho.

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

I seem to remember that the EB2 team, early on, said that there was room for 10 new factions. We know of 5 of them (Pergamon, Bosphoran Kingdom, Massylia, Boii and the Lugiones) so....thinking about the map, where might the other factions be? Well, I think it is almost certain that one of the Celtiberian groups is going to be in (Arevaci?), I would put money on there being a Belgic faction in some form. Who else? The Nabatu have got to be in with a shout. That leaves two more....

Media Atropatene? Remained (as far as I can figure) independent and active - politically and militarily - for the greater part of EB2's timeframe.
Galatia? Perhaps too many factions in such a small area, but then....., perhaps because of all those other powers Galatia might only be able to survive as a faction, rather than as an Eleutheroi province.
Sequani? Perhaps a bit too much for the area but....in alliance with the Helvetii might provide a little more intrigue into Gaul/Germania.
Scordisci? Maybe just a little more pressure in that are of the map, to stop the Epirotes/Makedons from spreading too rapidly North, or the Getai taking too much Westward too easily.
Skythia? I know, a weak one this but you never know - the Hellenised Kingdom was active and expansionist...

Just throwing a few ideas out, and putting forward that beyond the (expected) Celtiberian, Belgae and Nabatu factions, the remainder (two factions) are difficult to guess.

[Arjos]

Expected: Arevaci, Atropatene, Nabatu, Syrakusai, scripting related slot
Wanted (XD): Arevaci, Nabatu, Belgae, Dalmatae, Aquitani

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

Expected: Arevaci, Atropatene, Nabatu, Syrakusai, scripting related slot
Wanted (XD): Arevaci, Nabatu, Belgae, Dalmatae, Aquitani

I just can't see Syrakusai fitting the bill - during the time period we're talking about.

I'm putting my money on; Arevaci, Nabatu, a Belgic tribe, Media Atropatene and the Scordisci.

[Populus Romanus]

I just can't see Syrakusai fitting the bill - during the time period we're talking about.

I'm putting my money on; Arevaci, Nabatu, a Belgic tribe, Media Atropatene and the Scordisci.

Yeah, sounds like my hopes as well.

[Ca Putt]

I'm with Arevaci, nabatu, a tribe between gauls and sweboz(so possibly belgae) and Atropatene no clue about the last one.

bet: I'd be nice to have more Occultus sigs^^ right now there only is this green one of which many people think it shows a bull. then we'd at least have the chance to guess :)

[fomalhaut]

seems like europe is going to be way too crowded. what about the east, besides nabatu?

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

seems like europe is going to be way too crowded. what about the east, besides nabatu?

I'm not really sure what else could be added in the East, realistically. We already have the Arche Seleukia, Baktria, Pahlava, Sauro, Hai, Pontos, Ptolemai and the Sabyn. Add to that Pergamon, Bosphoran Kingdom and then (possibly) Nabatu and Atropatene...Perhaps Kartli...., but I'm not sure that their influence in the area could be considered as prominent enough. Whereas in Europe, we know that the Luso's are overpowering, so a Celtiberian faction is required even from the point of view of the mechanics of the game, let alone the interest in such. I went for the Scordisci upon the basis that they will hold off too great an expansion by the Getai into the West, the Macedons or Epirotes North and the Boii and Lugiones East and South. The Belgae...well, I just figured they gotta be there ;-)

[Populus Romanus]

Yeah, sounds like my hopes as well.

I forgot about Kartli. I am very confident that they will be in. However, that would mean that one of those five fine choices would have to go. Furthermore, another would have to go because of the "one we have never guessed" thing. Why, why?

[bobbin]

Whereas in Europe, we know that the Luso's are overpowering, so a Celtiberian faction is required even from the point of view of the mechanics of the game, let alone the interest in such.

Faction performance in EB ≠ faction performance in EBII

[moonburn]

herm i would love to play a syrakuse campaign "the return of the western greeks" to "unify" the remaints of the western mediterraenean greeks and retake corsica sardinia sicily with the suport of emporion and massilia and even perhaps arsé

also it could help spice up things in both the iberian peninsula southern france and most importantly beteween the carthies and the romans (272 they start allied to rome and at peace with the punii and then in 265 they try to take messina and all hell breaks loose)

so syracuse can be blamed for how things turned beteween the romans and the punii and if not for them there might have never been a 1st punic war or it might have went very diferently