Carnyx

[Leon the Batavian]

Do you also include officers who are able and brave enough to make decisive decisions on their own. And act at the right place and time ?

Whermacht Soldiers did their "duty". Waffen SS fought till inevitable bitter end. Soldiers / Warriors ?

Interesting subject.

[Atraphoenix]

Just compare "Achilles" with "Leonidas" to sum up...

[moonburn]

for a society to keep a soldier it comes somewhat cheap then to keep a warrior

a warrior is someone who stakes it´s land catle slaves wife sons honour the memory of his forefathers every time he enter an arena or a batlefield a soldier does his job and survives and if he dies he doesn´t get payed (the soldiers who died in the punic war meant their wifes would loose their lands to the rich landowners since they where needed back home to plough those lands)

also warriors are political liabilities for a goverment who wishes a more centralised state (i remembered the parnii becoming farmers and all of a sudden only the king could keep a strong and large enough heard to continue to fight on horseback) but warriors are the best ensurance that a society remains free or will be very hard to tackle down since you can defeat 1 2 3 4 5 armies but the warriors will never quit as i said lands catle prestige wifes slaves (durkheims work on social ascension can explain it better sociologically why it was better to die then to survive defeated)

[ziegenpeter]

Wehrmacht Soldiers did their "duty". Waffen SS fought till inevitable bitter end. Soldiers / Warriors ?

Interesting, do you have a source on taht?

[bobbin]

This isn't the place for discussing WW2 infantry, take it to PM or the backroom.

[Ludens]

This isn't the place for discussing WW2 infantry, take it to PM or the backroom.

Slight correction: the Backroom is for discussion of contemporary politics. WW2 questions are best asked in the Monastery.

[Leon the Batavian]

Interesting, do you have a source on taht?

It was just a question a long the line of what is a soldier / warrior. I have no Idea just wondering about it if it applies to modern warfare as well as ancient times.

I think some just did their duty while others were fanatics etc..... Is a soldier someone who is doing a job and a warrior a fanatic I don't know was thinking out load. Maybe you can PM me about your thoughts thank you.

But as others said no WW2 talk here which is fair and clear.

[Kikaz]

Now I finally know what that didgeridoo sound was. Many thanks!

[bobbin]

That wasn't a Carnyx, it would have been one of the horns found on the Prehistoric Music Ireland website (the people who made the music).

[Kikaz]

That wasn't a Carnyx, it would have been one of the horns found on the Prehistoric Music Ireland website (the people who made the music).

Oh okay, they sound quite similar.