Civil War in Libya

**HoreTore** · 03-18-2011, 23:53

Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger

And when are you leaving for Libya to fight the good fight?

The Internet Tough Guy, ITG, always leads the good fight from a nearby keyboard, with his almighty e-penis.

**Ice** · 03-19-2011, 01:48

Originally Posted by HoreTore

The Internet Tough Guy, ITG, always leads the good fight from a nearby keyboard, with his almighty e-penis.

second quote of yours going in my sig :)

**ICantSpellDawg** · 03-19-2011, 01:54

I'd pay a big tax increase for it.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 03-19-2011, 02:19

Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff

I'd pay a big tax increase for it.

No you wouldn't. Someone would claim they were making a tax increase for your War Department and you'd vote it down for fear the money could be used to make sure poor people have healthcare.

Anyway, "Team America" has a poor track record, the last reasonably successful venture was Korea and you weren't the ones directly running that.

**Xiahou** · 03-19-2011, 02:39

I think the west has made a mess of this situation. Obama spoke out early about Gaddafi needing to step down, but we did nothing. Now that the opposition forces are pushed back to the brink, we intervene.

If we were going to, we should have done it earlier and decisively. If not, he shouldn't have taken sides.

**Ice** · 03-19-2011, 02:47

Originally Posted by Xiahou

I think the west has made a mess of this situation. Obama spoke out early about Gaddafi needing to step down, but we did nothing. Now that the opposition forces are pushed back to the brink, we intervene.

If we were going to, we should have done it earlier and decisively. If not, he shouldn't have taken sides.

Good call, x. We really should have kept our mouths shut and remained neutral. I'd have no problem giving approval for other nations to go intervene if they really wanted to, but we should have stayed the hell out.

**HoreTore** · 03-19-2011, 09:58

Originally Posted by Ice

second quote of yours going in my sig :)

A few more lines and it's an essay!

**Viking** · 03-19-2011, 10:15

Gaddafi tanks supposedly inside Benghazi now. Where be the jets? Things are taking so long one could wonder whether or not they are serious about this whole thing.

It also looks like the US is going to be very reluctant about using any of their own firepower:

President Barack Obama is trying to limit the United States' role in enforcing a no-fly zone over Libya to support aircraft only and is very reluctant to commit any offensive U.S. firepower, a senior U.S. official familiar with the military planning discussions said Friday.

"We will provide the unique capabilities that we can bring to bear to stop the violence against civilians, including enabling our European allies and Arab partners to effectively enforce a no-fly zone," the president said in a nationally televised statement about U.S. military action.

"The president chose his words deliberately and carefully, and you should be guided by them," the official said. "He is very sensitive that this not be a U.S. operation. We are part of it. And of course, we by nature of our superior capabilities have a lead and leadership role to play. But we are part of it and expect a lot from our partners," the official said.

Asked about the "unique capabilities" the president talked about contributing, the official said that at least for now, they would not involve combat fighters or bombers but instead would include AWACS, intelligence-gathering drones and other intelligence assets, and refueling and air traffic control.