The Pisonian Conspiracy [Concluded]

[Skooma Addict]

Vote: robbiecon

[Secura]

Vote: robbiecon

What's the reason?

This is the most important lynch in the game and you're not going to be able to squeeze by with just a vote and no explanation.

[Skooma Addict]

There is no reason or explanation for it. It is every bit as unwarranted and baseless as it appears.

[Renata]

OK, this is just sad. I'm officially rooting for the mafia.

[Secura]

Town choice should be clear then, lynch Skooma.

[Skooma Addict]

Now now, no need to get flustered. I was a bit preoccupied and needed something down in case I missed another deadline.
robbiecon and Ironhead have extremely suspect votes.

Mr. Con

Beefy asks to be replaced...

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My apologies to the host but if someone is eager to do so, I would like to get replaced due to the recent earth quake in Japan.

With energy shortage and recovery effort I don't think I can be as active as I would like.
If there is no one I'm willing to continue playing.

Though I feel terrible as I seem to be one of the suspect..

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Vote: Beefy, I understand fully the Japan situation, and hope yourself and those you know are all ok.

However I will vote you to allow for some analysis on yesterday's voters. We'll know a lot more about everyone I imagine depending on what Beefy shows up as.

Also Vitellius was Roman Emperor for 8 months after Nero's death. So I'm guessing he was destined to take Nero's place once he died.

It seems he would rather Beefy died then have him be replaced which I find peculiar and especially offensive as I was the one to replace him.

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Vote: johnhughthom, attempting to distance yourself from ye olde scum are we?

Which was in response to JHT's post...

Very kind of you to bold the scum for us Cpt B.

edit, doh, the bold are dead, right?

A post that was clearly a mistake and/or a jest.

Ironhead's are much worse.

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Why would someone vote for themselves? Is this supposed to be an indication of some sort that we're supposed to vote for him?

VOTE: BEEFY

Fishing for a reason to kill a self voting player on day 1

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Severed head? Yucky!

VOTE WARMAN

because of this response of his -- no vote, no analysis, nothing to offer the rest of us. I wonder if maybe he was waiting here for Tigellinus' corpse to be found, so he could be first on the spot with an observation of it. But then, how would he know where to be and when, unless he was complicit in the conspiracy?

It would appear either he is joking, or he is really grasping at straws to find a reason to vote for someone who, at the time, was already a person of interest.

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I thought yesterday's vote behavior was interesting. I cast a vote on Warman, who cast a revenge vote on me, and over the course of the day we both picked up a few more votes. But as deadline loomed, Warman still had a handful of votes, and the second place candidate was not me but rather Lord of Lent. So who was it that shifted their vote from me to Lord of Lent to condemn LoL to his death and thus protect Warman from a possible lynch? None other than Secura. I suggest we lynch Secura, and if guilty, we might find that Warman was also part of this conspiracy.

VOTE SECURA

Here he accuses Secura of voting LoL to save Warman. After seeing Secura's vote for Warman which came literally, the very next post and an explanation the following post, his vote remained on her.

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You were voted for because of this post; you appeared to be reading far too much into Warman's behaviour at the time, and your comment regarding "so he could be first on the spot with an observation of it" sounded really off.

The vote switch is self-explanitory to be honest; Lord of Lent hopped onto the Warman wagon without explaining his vote, making him the third voter on the wagon, a scummy accolade in it's own right. Furthermore, I don't really think one can argue when two of the best players of the Gameroom had also found his behaviour to be scummy.

My vote for Warman comes because he has been acting odd for the entire game now, and while I know that this is just his usual behaviour, I think that he could be maintaining this as a facade to appear as town as possible. This notion is further supported by a comment I have from a QuickTopic I was privy to as gamehost, whereby he was acting similarly in-thread and shrugged it off as "I'm just toying with them and keeping my mouth shut for the time being."

Ergo, he gets my vote now.

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Was Warman a bad guy then?

Also, am I the only one who thinks it is suspicious that askthepizzaguy announced yesterday that he had some secret information, and apparently was in touch with some important roles, and yet he wasn't night-killed?

VOTE ASKTHEPIZZAGUY

He says that ATPG is suspicious because he claimed to have known about a vigilante but was not killed the previous night for it. He was also the only one who pointed this out.

I would cast my vote for death against Ironhead, because his reason for voting me almost sounded like he expected people would find me guilty after he didn't kill me. Either his scumdar is way off, or he's thinking like a scumbag while trying to put more suspicion on an already suspicious person.

Pizza points out how questionable his vote is. The very next night ATPG was killed.

I think robbiecon's scummy, but Ironhead's scummier. Clearly the brains behind the whole operation.

unvote: Vote: Ironhead

[Secura]

See, that's exactly the kinda thing the town needs to be doing in order to win... apathy will only lead to death. :3

[johnhughthom]

See, that's exactly the kinda thing the town needs to be doing in order to win... apathy will only lead to death. :3

I did exactly the same thing, only less boring.

[Skooma Addict]

I did it just for you. Hope you're happy. I died a little inside. I lost my spark.

I did exactly the same thing, only less boring.

I agree...

[Chimpyang]

I see your explanation and I: Unvote

[robbiecon]

Well give me a strong reason for somebody then.

edit: Oh yes, knew I'd something to follow up on. Care to explain this Robbiecon?

Twas just a hunch, let's continue with it:

Vote: johnhughthom , again

[Ironhead]

This is my first game on this forum, I haven't got a clue what is going on half the time, I cannot figure out who is good or who is bad. My role is Pliny, and when I got the role PM I didn't know if I was supposed to be good or bad so I even sent a night-kill order in to the GM (he gently returned it with advice that the only way I can kill people is with my vote to lynch).

Sorry if my posts have been without much meat to them, I have been gut-voting most of the time anyway.

VOTE ROBBIECON -- based on Skooma's argument.

[robbiecon]

The only way you'd think you had a kill order to send in is if it were mentioned in your role PM!!!

[johnhughthom]

This is my first game on this forum, I haven't got a clue what is going on half the time, I cannot figure out who is good or who is bad.

I hope you'll keep playing, the first few games can be very disorienting, and you feel ignored a lot of the time. I have a game I still need players for, not quite mafia but it should be good.

So um yeah, you're still totally scum...

[Captain Blackadder]

7 hours to go

[Captain Blackadder]

Half an hour to go

[Captain Blackadder]

Round Over prepare for write up

[Captain Blackadder]

Ironhead, JohnHughthom, Skooma
Johnhughthom Robbiecon
Robbiecon Ironhead


This was the final day of the reign of the most glorious Emperor Nero he who had ruled Rome for decades. The final vote takes place and as the senators argue it goes back and forth going from one figure to the next. As it is in many of these situations the vote goes the way of the man who has no friends in Rome, the loner more happy to be writing books then discussing politics. Pliny. Pliny steps forward knowing in his heart that he has not done all that he was supposed to have done. He has had no children to carry on the name of Pliny. However these thoughts mean nothing in the long run for today is the day the he dies. Pliny steps forward with his life running through his eyes. He had being in self imposed exile yet he had come back to help Rome and death was to be his reward? Nero orders the last men standing to take Pliny away and they move towards him. Vespasian the great General moves towards him, Petronius the great satirist who may have being involved but was not they take Pliny outside leaving Nero alone with Epicharis and Faenus Rufus head of the Praetorian Guard after the death of Tigellinus. Nero looks around noticing the senate house is empty. He looks at these two figures and realises far too late to save himself that he has made a grave mistake. He yells out for the Praetorians to help him but they do not respond.

Rufus walks to the Emperor and quietly talks to him.
We have had Emperors for the last 80 years and what has it caused? Nothing but heartbreak and pain. Today is the day that you die Nero and the corrupt Empire will die with you. Tomorrow will be the dawning of a new age the return of the republic. Do you have anything to say before will kill you, you fat blotted corpse of a man?

"I am ready to become a god. I am ready to meet the gods of the world it is a question of are they ready to meet me?"

With these final words the daggers once again fall on Nero destroying the Empire and restoring the Republic. This will known as the year of Rufus and Epicharis and will be remembered throughout history.

Meanwhile as Pliny falls from the hills of Rome to be gashed on the rocks. The two remaining loyalists return to the Senate House and find Nero's corpse the plotters look at them and ask.

"Will you help the Republic?"

Fearing for their lives both men say yes. But as they walk away there is a little smile on the face of Vespasian Rufus is a fool and Epicharis is insignificant there will be nothing to stop him from ruling Rome soon and this time there will be no civil war to prevent him.


MAFIA VICTORY

Romanic
Chimpyang
JohnHughthom 2

Congratulations on a well deserved victory.

Role Pm's to come tomorrow as well as host commentary.

[johnhughthom]

Mwa ha ha. Thanks for the game Capt B and nice working with you Chimpyang and Roman .

[Chimpyang]

Thanks for hosting the game Captain Blackadder.

Mafia QT is here: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/WvyX2QnEfKuXh

GG All.

[johnhughthom]

But as they walk away there is a little smile on the face of Vespasian

Oooh, third game on the cards?

[Renata]

Not really a surprise. Good game to the mafia. Townies .... well let's just say that when the two remaining mafia are the only ones talking for half of the final day? You're gonna lose.

[johnhughthom]

Not really a surprise. Good game to the mafia. Townies .... well let's just say that when the two remaining mafia are the only ones talking for half of the final day? You're gonna lose.

I do so love it when townies take defeat with good grace...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well played.

[Renata]

I do so love it when townies take defeat with good grace...

I am not a gracious loser. :)

[Romanic]

Yay!

Good game everyone! Congrats to my teammates, for surviving and winning the game for me.

Thanks for the game CB

And I am wondering: Did Secura kill ATPG last night because you thought he could be mafia without knowing it? Was Secura vigilante or again a friendly Serial killer?

I'm interested to see the roles, because we had no special powers at all, and it appears there was a doctor, a vigilante, an extra voter, a council or someone to decide how tied lynches would end. From my perspective we were not favourite, or what am I missing?

[Secura]

And I am wondering: Did Secura kill ATPG last night because you thought he could be mafia without knowing it? Was Secura vigilante or again a friendly Serial killer?

I was a serial killer; I assume you say again because I played the role in the exact same fashion in Shakespearean Mafia?

At first, I read my PM incorrectly; I was in a hurry, had just handled an infraction (and the fallout that followed) and had things to do with the Animus game, so skirted over the PM and assumed I had to find and kill Piso. After several nights of not using my ability, Blackadder approached me and told me I was supposed to be killing every night, I told him I was aware of this fact... but continued not to do so.

By this point I had already been pressured by both Winston and Pizza, possibly due to the fact that there had only been one kill and I had been inactive due to laptop issues; I told them I was a vigilante, as I had believed, but later came clean to Pizza that I was actually a serial killer.

Over the course of the next two or three day phases, I helped Pizza weed through potential suspects, but following Romanic's lynch it got to the point where he believed the mafia to be defeated and said I had to kill him, for reasons I still can't fathom. He said that it would be unsporting or something like that, so I went along with it.

Essentially, I was supposed to be the second kill each night, a balancing mechanic for the game and so on; due to my dislike of serial killer roles (I just don't have the killer instinct as mafia, that's even worse without partners to confer with), I basically decided to play the game as I was town, and then allow Pizza to reveal and lynch me at the end.

Had I not made the conscious decision to play the game in this fashion, the town would have had minimal chance of winning since they needed to lynch me and three mafia to win; in a game of only seventeen people, with two kills per night... I think that this is a bad choice on the part of the host.

[Captain Blackadder]

Role PM's

Johnhughthom

Marcus Salvius Otho

Brave men rejoice in adversity, just as brave soldiers triumph in war.
Seneca

Hail Otho, You are Otho a future Emperor of Rome and current ruler of Lusitania . You are one of the men who actually runs the Empire. You are well know for your moderation and level headed method of running your province. You have had some problems with Nero of late after all he did steal your wife. But you still do like him and you do remember all the great times you had when you were younger.

Objective See all threats to the Empire Destroyed

Askthepizzaguy

Lucius Calpurnius Piso Frugi Licinianus

Yield not to calamity, but face her boldly.
Virgil

Hail, Lucius. You are Lucius brother of the conspirator Piso. However you are not involved in the conspiracy. You are a direct descendent of one of the richest men who ever lived Marcus Crassus. Whilst you have nowhere near the amount of money that he has you still have some of that spark. Plus as a bonus you are a far better General then he ever was.

Objective To destroy all threats to the Empire

Secura

Servius Sulpicius Galba
A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.
Seneca

Hail Galba. You are Galba a future Emperor of Rome and current ruler of Spain. You are one of the men who actually runs the Empire. Whilst during much of the past 30 years you have being retired you returned to public office 5 years ago. Since that day you have found yourself wondering could you be the next Emperor? You have decided that it is indeed time to strike. Whilst you will not work with Piso you will use his plot as a cover whilst you strike removing all that would stand in your way.

Objective To kill all those who stand in your way to becoming Emperor.

Abilities You may select one player each night to be killed

Robbiecon

Titus Flavius Vespasianus
Fate will find a way
Virgil

Hail Vespasian, You are Vespasian a future Emperor of Rome and the great General of the Empire. You are one of the men who actually runs the Empire and has ensured that it remains safe and stable even whilst Nero has slowly slipped into what could charitably be called eccentricities. You are happy to remain in your position for now knowing that you shall have your time sooner or latter.

Objective:To Destroy all threat to the Empire

Renata

Gaius Musonius Rufus
Happy the man who has been able to learn the causes of things.
Virgil

Hail Gaius, You are Gaius Musonius Rufus the famous stoic philosopher. You have written many great works on philosophy. You are known for your very radical views on women. You have said that women should learn philosophy because they have the same capacity as men. This is of course insanity. Your other extremely radical views have often put you into conflict with the authorities however as a stoic you would never resort to Murder.

Objective: To destroy all threats to the Empire

Autolycus

Gaius Ofonius Tigellinus

All cruelty springs from weakness.
Seneca

Hail Prefect of the Praetorian Guard. You are Tigellinus for now on of Nero's greatest allies in Rome. You are so trusted by Nero that you have being placed in command of the group that is known to be the Kingmaker in Roman Politics, the Praetorian Guard. You have returned his trust by not joining in the plot to dispose of him. In fact you are one of the leading lights of the investigation into the plot. You are known for your complete devotion to finding out the plotters and are not afraid to commit a little bit of torture to get what you want. You in conjunction with Poppaea Sabina (Winston Hughes) are the ones leading the investigation against the menace that is the Pisonians.

Objective: To destroy all threats to the Empire
Abilities: As the commander of the Praetorian Guard you can protect one person each night.

Winston Hughes

Poppaea Augusta Sabina

“Outward beauty is not enough; to be attractive a woman must use words, wit, playfulness, sweet-talk, and laughter to transcend the gifts of Nature”
Petronius

Hail Empress Poppaea. You are the Empress of Rome second wife to Nero one of the most ambitious women in Roman History. Many things have being said about you some of them not kind. The most common being that you have relations with other women as well as being that special kind of ruthless that makes sure that such rumours never reach your ears. You are one of the leading lights of the Investigation into the Conspiracy along with the head of Neros bodyguard Gaius Ofonius Tigellinus (Autolycus).

Objective: To destroy all threats to the Empire
Abilities: As the wife of the Emperor you have a certain powers in Rome. In the event of a tie you decide who dies plus your vote counts for double.

Tiberius of the Drake

Faenius Rufus
After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one.
Cato the Elder

Hail Rufus, You are Rufus one of the Prefect of the Provisions or the man who supplies all the grain for Rome and ensures that City does not starve. You are the most wondrous sort of man whilst others in your position used it to make large amounts of money for themselves you have done no such thing. You have being completely honest in your dealings and have being fair in all of your actions thus far. It is for this reason you have joined the conspiracy to kill Nero.

Objective. To kill all the Senators allowing you to kill Nero and restore the Republic.
Abilities: With your fellow conspirators Gaius Piso (Romanic) and Epicharis (Chimpyang) You must decide on a target who will be killed.

As this Game has no posting of Role Pms you cover role is that of Publius Egnatius Celer

Romanic

Gaius Piso
The bravest sight in the world is to see a great man struggle against adversity.
Seneca

Hail Piso, You are Piso the leader of the plot against Nero. You are a member of the ancient family Calpurnii most well known for marrying into Julius Caesars' family towards the end of his life. You have being described in a variety of ways, some call you good looking and intelligent others call you snobbish and pretentious. You are the Consul for this year and you are risking many things by plotting against the Emperor should you be discovered your fate will be a very bad one indeed.

Objective: To destroy all Senator so that you may kill Nero and restore the Republic
Ablities: With your fellow conspirators Faenus Rufus (Tiberius of the Drake) and Epicharis (Chimpyang) You must decide on a target who will be killed.

As this Game has no posting of Role Pms you cover role is that of Marcus Asinius Marcellus

Chimpyang

Epicharis
Fortune Favour the Bold
Virgil

Hail Epicharis.You are Epicharis last name unrecorded one of the bravest women that Rome has ever seen and a key conspirator behind the Piso Conspiracy. Whilst the other members of the plot are vainglorious and ineffective you are decisive. Even though it was your decision to approach one of the Commanders of the Navy that lead to the discovery of the plot. Luckily he knows not of your name so whilst your task is now more difficult it is not impossible.

Objective: To destroy all Senator so that you may kill Nero and restore the Republic
Ablities: With your fellow conspirators Faenus Rufus (Tiberius of the Drake) and Gaius Piso (Romanic) You must decide on a target who will be killed.

As this Game has no posting of Role Pms you cover role is that of Lucius Junius Caesennius Paetus

Skooma Addict

Aulus Vitellius

A punishment to some, to some a gift, and to many a favour.
Seneca

Hail Vitellius. You are Vitellius a future Emperor of Rome and current Pro-Consul of Africa. You are one of the men who actually runs this Empire. As a result you are not too happy to be recalled to discover plotters. You would much rather be in Carthage ruling over one of the most important provinces in the Empire. Yet you must do as the Emperor wishes and thus you are in Rome.

Objective: To destroy all threats to the Empire.

Yaropolk
Gaius Suetonius Paulinus
Persevere and preserve yourselves for better circumstances.
Virgil

Hail Seutonius, You are Gaius Suetonius Paulinus the governor of Britain. You are most well know for defeating the menace that was Boadicea and making certain that Britain remains part of the Roman Empire to this day. Your power in the Empire is great but your position is vicarious as Britain is a backwater of the Empire and the true honour and power rests in the east.

Objective Destroy all threats to the Empire.
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Lord of Lent
Gaius Licinius Mucianus [/B]
One man excels in eloquence, another in arms.
Virgil

Hail Gaius. You are Gaius the Governer of Syria. Whilst you have had to deal with revolts by the Jewish members of your province it has proven to be a very difficult task. There has being some talk in Rome that you are to be replaced as Governer by someone more suited to Military tasks. But you are an able historian who has collected many letters written in the late republic period. You have formed them into books such as Cicero's letters to his friends. So at the very least one thing you do will live on through the ages even if the people will not remember your name.

Objective Destroy all threats to the Republic[/CENTER]

Warman

Seneca
We know that you are mad with much learning
Petronius

Hail Seneca. You are Seneca the leading intellectual of Rome. Well known for your plays and your writings on the Stoic philosopher you are just the kind of man that could one day rule Rome yourself. Which may be why the man you taught, Nero is distancing himself from you these days. No matter you are a loyal man and are not involved in the plot.

Objective: To destroy all threats to the Empire[/CENTER]

Beefy187

Petronius

I shall never be ashamed of citing a bad author if the line is good
Seneca

Hail Petronius. You are Petronius one of the leading lights of high society in Rome. You are known for your great wit and humour. You wrote the great book Satyricon under a pseudonym. You were on of the greatest writers of the age. If you die it will be a great loss to the entire Roman world.

Objective: To destroy all threats to the Empire[/CENTER]

Ironhead
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Pliny
The best plan is to profit by the folly of others.
Pliny the Elder

Hail Pliny. You are Pliny, whilst in latter life you will become known as Pliny the Elder for now you are just plain Pliny. You have long seen that Nero has being growing steadily more insane of late. Whilst you have attempted to stay out of politics you have being dragged back into this mess. Whilst you wish for nothing more then to sit back and write books on Grammar and Generals you have being forced to defend yourself.

Objective: To destroy all threats to the Empire

[Romanic]

I was a serial killer; I assume you say again because I played the role in the exact same fashion in Shakespearean Mafia?

Yes .

Had I not made the conscious decision to play the game in this fashion, the town would have had minimal chance of winning since they needed to lynch me and three mafia to win; in a game of only seventeen people, with two kills per night... I think that this is a bad choice on the part of the host.

I disagree with this. The serial killer and the mafia are enemies, they can't win together, so they are bound at some point to attack each other, helping the Town collaterally. We've seen 17 player games with 3 mafia and 1 SK in the past, it's not unbalanced. Of course the Town could have been crushed in this case, if they can't lynch a mafia before Day 5 (me) and if the SK doesn't kill a mafiosi, but it could have been different story if you did.

[Secura]

I disagree with this.

I don't expect anyone to agree, but my opinion stands. :P