Hey he wouldn't be the first who went insane and recieved a message from heaven, and people still buy it even today
And what Horetore said
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Hey he wouldn't be the first who went insane and recieved a message from heaven, and people still buy it even today
And what Horetore said
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Considering how often we agree, Frags, perhaps we should form a political party?Originally Posted by Fragony
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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The MEA, moderate extremists alliance
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Sweet!The MEA, moderate extremists alliance
I say we do it, and run for the european parliament! Then we can waste Louis' tax dollars all day long on hookers and blow!
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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I think I'm too cynical. But, the first thing that popped into my head is that the parents made it all up and coached their son to say those things.
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It is quite fascinating though.
Seeing people who claim to spread the ultimate truth lie through their teeth.
Because that's what this is, a simple lie. A lie told with the intent of changing other peples beliefs. There's a lot of this going on in christian circles, and this is juet one case among many. I've had a flier in my mail by a guy claiming stigmata, another outragous lie. Then there's that story of how a group of scientists supposedly "measured the spirit leaving a dying man", with an electrical surge at the moment of death and the body's weight being reduced by some grams. Plain old horse manure. Dead people resurrected in Africa, diseases cured at halleluja conventions. They deserve nothing more than ridicule.
The amount of people who buy into these lies, however... 1,5 million copies sold? That's sad.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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Maybe Professor Persinger and his work with the God Helmet is on to something. I watched the below clip the other night, very interesting.
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*
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Lies, lies...I don't think it is lies, or a conscious effort by the parents. People really do believe that stuff, they get carried away, eventually others realise there is a lot of money to made from it.
Reminds me a bit of Bernadette of Lourdes, still a multibillion business afer more than a century. But they do believe it, nearly all of them involved really do believe it. Until eventually you get to the point where you wonder if maybe it not just simply fulfills sincere human needs. In this boys' case, for the mother to deal with the loss of her unborn child, and everything else. At Lourdes, it gioves some meaning and hope to the sick and crippled. What else do you tell these people, what else must they believe? I'd believe it too if I were them.
Even those people on television who talk with deceased relatoves of members of the audience...yes, it is all fake. But is it a lie? They don't even have to lie. The audience will want to believe them, will believe them. The ritual is not about deceit, but about fulfilling a spiritual need, however crudely done.
The line between outright charlatans and true believers is thin indeed. As is the line between people of simple faith (or simple people of faith?), and direct spiritual revelation.
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