Women are confusing

[Napoleon The Emperor Of Europe]

Another update.

So she sat next to me at class again, and starting talking to me etc. Then at the end she went the long way round to go through the same exit as me (the desks were arranged strangely), so I started talking to her, and eventually we got to her car, so we continued talking for a while (just about the Uni course, where we work etc).

I thought about asking for her number again, but in the end I just settled for asking if she would be going to the revision session next week (the last time the class meets), and she said she would. She seemed like she was wanting to hang around and talk, and so eventually we just smiled and said OK see you next week.

Maybe I should have asked for her number but at least its looks like it's all set up for me to next week...

Good for you.

you should not end this up.Think!you're lucky that a women is actually talking to you,and becoming friends.

This does not happen with many males(in my book)

Dont end this,you have already gone to great lentghs for her friendship.Now she will do the same to you.

Maybe you could end up falling in love or I don't knw

But be friends with her.don't break the friendship(Belive me,when you break firendship with women,its never good for you)

And be her best firend.

who's knows ?

[Strike For The South]

baby steps are good SFTS says as blood vessels begin to pop

[Strike For The South]

this thread almost slipped off the page

Perish the thought

[naut]

My only advice would be: if your only options are a chance of love/sex/fun or the fear of rejection, then the choice should be fairly obvious, because death is coming.

STOP PLAYING HARD TO GET AND BOINK HER ALREADY.

[Strike For The South]

My only advice would be: if your only options are a chance of love/sex/fun or the fear of rejection, then the choice should be fairly obvious, because death is coming.

STOP PLAYING HARD TO GET AND BOINK HER ALREADY.

+!1

[PanzerJaeger]

this thread almost slipped off the page

Perish the thought

[Rhyfelwyr]

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[Sigurd]

Remember, I directly went and asked for her number a few weeks ago, and she said NO (or in all likelihood meant to politely say no).

So I deliberately just backed right off, told myself to just get over it because I didn't want to seem like a creep. But then it is her that initiates things again.

I guess I probably should have asked for her number again. But the above reason put me off a bit. Still, surely we made it clear we are both still interested in each other, especially when we checked to see we would both be going to the class next week (with it being the last one)?

Maybe she had a creepy boyfriend before, sending all sorts of unwanted texts or calls. She just don't want that again. Maybe that's why she needed a new phone. You should have just given her your number, to call when ever. She can hide her number when calling you...

[LeftEyeNine]

Don't retry on the number thing. She'll give it provided things go fine. Just stay positive and interested.

[Tuuvi]

Sounds like you're doing fine to me. Just keep talking to her, go with the flow and eventually you will get to hang out with her. Personally I don't like to ask for numbers right off the bat I usually talk to the person and build some sort of friendship first and I prefer if people do the same to me. So I don't think you need to worry about not getting her number yet.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Gah! Don't give me conflicting advice, I'm confused enough already!

I don't want the friendship zone, and I don't think thats what either of us are aiming for (and I don't think that's where it's going either), so I'm just going to stick with Strike and Pyscho and ask for her number.

[InsaneApache]

There is a foolproof method of finding out if she is interested. Grab her and stick your tongue down her throat. If she doesn't slap you daft, you're in!

[Strike For The South]

Gah! Don't give me conflicting advice, I'm confused enough already!

I don't want the friendship zone, and I don't think thats what either of us are aiming for (and I don't think that's where it's going either), so I'm just going to stick with Strike and Pyscho and ask for her number.

Looks like the boy has some sand after all

Good on ya son

[naut]

Gah! Don't give me conflicting advice, I'm confused enough already!

I don't want the friendship zone, and I don't think thats what either of us are aiming for (and I don't think that's where it's going either), so I'm just going to stick with Strike and Pyscho and ask for her number.

During class ask her what she is doing after class, if she says nothing, suggest something. Why take her number and phone later when you could do something there and then?

[LeftEyeNine]

The girl is already thinking about when he'll ask for the number again. I'd personally play "fine, I'd asked once, not doing it again" so as to own the upper hand of the relationship.

9 cents.

[Strike For The South]

boom

[Rhyfelwyr]

Well you'll all hear in a few hours...

[Strike For The South]

This maybe your only chance to ever find love

Don't muck it up!


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[Rhyfelwyr]

Well she didn't even turn up to the class.

lol/fml

[Upxl]

be cocky ;)

[LeftEyeNine]

W-wha- 0_0

[Strike For The South]

On second thought

Just kiss her

It will save you from writing novels

[Megas Methuselah]

Real talk. Word.

[Husar]

Thank you for sharing your advice Upxl.

And please ignore the mean Texan and participate a bit more!

[Rhyfelwyr]

Wow, thanks for that advice upxl. You should post more, we don't bite you know!

But regarding one thing you said, I don't think she was playing hard to get by missing the class. Because it was in fact the last class of the term. Meaning I won't see her again for over a month until the exam.

I'm just staying positive and not letting it bother me, although I'm getting tired of making myself feel like that. I guess I can't complain, I probably messed her around more in the past when it was her that took the initiative... not deliberately, just because I'm an idiot. So I guess I deserve it.

[Scienter]

Just a word from someone who has been on the receiving end of this type of behavior. It doesn't always work. In fact, it can be pretty repellant. I'm not going all feminist rage here, despite my posts in the backroom. I'm just speaking from my own experiences and those of people I know.

5-Check her out, give small hints that she has to convince you she’s worth dating.
When she speaks look at her like you’re evaluating what she’s said and how she acts.
In your mind you know she wants to go out with you because your just that cool, smart kind a guy any girl is lucky to have. But what do you think of her?Is she worth the “trouble”?
You know she is ofcours but that doesn’t mean she has to know about it,correct?

If someone treated me in the manner described above, it would be a giant turn off. If a guy made me think that I wasn't worth his time, and that I needed to convince him that I'm worth it, he would come across as douchey. It comes across as less than genuine and would probably make me lose interest, or at least reconsider.

6- be cocky, little arrogant, make little jokes about her looks or something else superficial but don’t overdo it.

Is this what pick up artists refer to as "negging?" This is extremely unattractive. If someone told me, for example, that "You look good, for your age" or some such, I would pretty much never give them my number or go out with them. I would either assume that the guy was extremely lacking in social skills, or deliberately insulting me. This is not something you do to someone you don't know well. Any woman with an ounce of self esteem won't fall for this.


Also, arrogance/cockiness can be pretty unattractive.

7-A woman always chooses the guy,but once in the dating zone a strong self confident male has the initiative. You choose when you’ll hug,kiss and all that other fine stuff lady’s provide so well.This is our power, here we thrive.Remember this,once dating you sir are in command.

Confidence is attractive, arrogance is a red flag. And confidence doesn't mean "control."

[Upxl]

Thanks Husar maybe I will and don’t worry, the mean Texan is only scary at first sight, like some 6 years ago.

[Scienter]

Scienter, you're focusing on the negative.
But I know and this wouldn’t be the first time I had this discussion with a woman.But there’s a difference between common sense and attraction, what you think and what you feel.
Control in this matter is an illusion.Blame it on basic raw animal instinct with a little bit of evolution mixed in.
It’s a mind game that works on many levels. And can be pretty fun when you know a little bit of the rules.

But nobody likes to have his or here gender simplified in this manner.
If it makes you feel any better men are much much more superficial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW6CoU2YtOU

I think I understand where you're coming from. My main beef is with #6. You're not the first person I've heard suggest this as a good approach for attracting women. Some are more brash about it and the stuff they think is good to say to someone is pretty appalling. If I was attracted (physically) to a guy and he came up and started making jokes about my appearance, it would come across as an insult, and would diminish my attraction to him or kill it outright. I've been in this situation. There's a difference between jokingly giving me a hard time because I like Star Trek (totally acceptable IMO because it's almost expected) and joking about my physical appearance or my intelligence. One is good natured and the other, well, isn't.

[Rhyfelwyr]

@ Rhyfelwyr: my friend thinks she’s obviously attracted to you and will make the initiative herself when she’s ready.
Your game mate, enjoy!

But why then would she not turn up when its the last class? That means the only time I will see her is at the exam which is over a month away.

I really thought all the right signs were there as well... bah! I refer once again to the thread title...

[Upxl]

One is good natured and the other, well, isn't.

True,true.
Like I said:Delicate.