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    Well when it happened and it was inconvenient, I sometimes just gave them back their city for a ceasefire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Populus Romanus View Post
    I actually like that. That feature really annoyed me as Saba, forcing me into war with the Arche Seleukeia and Ptolemaioi before I was ready for it.
    An aspect of the game made even worse by the fact that there are no recruitable generals available so you have no chance of hiring a band of mercenaries to defend the city, and you've got no chance of either moving an army there in time or recruiting a reasonable garrison before the Ptolies or Selecids attacked...

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    yep, holding many Arabian and Ethiopian lands with a level 4 is pretty impractical since you can't hire anyone, yet they are often too far to send a fm. the palmyra and other revolting garrisons are only good for destroying whatever is in there for the money and taking the revolting garrison on a killing spree in the region, as there is no way possible to hold on to it without great headache and you sure as heck aint gonna be able to send relief across the arabian desert.

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    tell me about it, "currently" I'm relying on client rulers imported by ship to keep peace in arabia.
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    hopefully this will be addressed in EBII. Saba has such great potential as a really really fun faction.

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    They could address it by adding the Nabatu. Those cities would rebel to them, and unlike the Sab'yn, the Nabatu are right next door.
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    Fecking hell! We are not doing a jewish faction. A minor kingdom that didn't even appear until way into our timeperiod. Please. Their importance historically and religiously masks their unimportance politically during our timeframe.

    We have stated over and over again that all factions will be playable, thus making emerging factions off the table. Please, please, please do not force us to repeat ourselves over and over again. Read a little of the steles, they do actually hold information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Populus Romanus View Post
    They could address it by adding the Nabatu. Those cities would rebel to them, and unlike the Sab'yn, the Nabatu are right next door.
    You've already commented on the post that states quite clearly that provinces rebel to the slave faction at all times. Therefore we would not need to include the Nabatu in some fashion to stop this from happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Sempronius Gracchus View Post
    An aspect of the game made even worse by the fact that there are no recruitable generals available so you have no chance of hiring a band of mercenaries to defend the city, and you've got no chance of either moving an army there in time or recruiting a reasonable garrison before the Ptolies or Selecids attacked...
    ? I've been able to recruit generals in my Saba campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuchip View Post
    ? I've been able to recruit generals in my Saba campaign.
    Not in Gerrha, Petra, Bostra or Axum because....there aren't any available.

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    and those are important places. you can get Greeks farther up the Nile, but i guess they didn't want to go down to ethiopia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Sempronius Gracchus View Post
    Not in Gerrha, Petra, Bostra or Axum because....there aren't any available.
    Oh ok, yea the only one of those cities I've conquered was Axum and I built a type 1 right from the start, so my bad.

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    off topic:
    This issue will be addressed in EB1.3

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    1.3!!!! Sweet ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamatan View Post
    off topic:
    This issue will be addressed in EB1.3
    Now....there's a nice little surprise. Wasn't expecting that...

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    woah was NOT expecting that at all

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    So, when will 1.3 be released? Can you give us a date?
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    When it is done.
    EB1.3 is a side project with minor significance, all manpower goes into EB2, I'm sure you support this cause of action.
    Furthermore there won't be new content, it will just combine the fixes for 1.2 and some other stuff we noticed.

    Now please back to topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamatan View Post
    When it is done.
    EB1.3 is a side project with minor significance, all manpower goes into EB2, I'm sure you support this cause of action.
    Furthermore there won't be new content, it will just combine the fixes for 1.2 and some other stuff we noticed.

    Now please back to topic.

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    Sorry, but you cannot drop such a bomb and then ask us to go back to topic
    what would this "other stuff" you mentioned be...?

    Unless you are performing trolling at its perfection.

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    Just misspellings in text files, the mentioned added client ruler recruitment, minor bugs.

    I should have had my mouth closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamatan View Post
    Just misspellings in text files, the mentioned added client ruler recruitment, minor bugs.

    I should have had my mouth closed.
    Not at all, I certainly wasn't expecting it to be a great re-write (EB2, as you say, comes first) - its just nice to know that these little things are going to be addressed. No biggie, but cheers all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamatan View Post
    Just misspellings in text files, the mentioned added client ruler recruitment, minor bugs.

    I should have had my mouth closed.
    if this stops crashes it will be wonderfull i quited on my carthaginian campaign because of constant cdtc

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    i'm sure you guys have compiled a bug list but don't forget the missing torsos of the Syracusans! the missing swords of some generals, the Sabyn pop ups talking about Carthage and feeble romans ummm that's all i can think of right now.

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    I have two ideas for the "unguessed faction". Tylis, founded after the invasion of Greece by Brennus and currently at the height of its power. Pokr Hayk, Lesser Armenia, never really heard of much but was apparently actve enough to conquer Trapezous. I will be coming up with a very in depth case for Tylis when I get back from vacation.:sun:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Populus Romanus View Post
    Pokr Hayk, Lesser Armenia, never really heard of much but was apparently actve enough to conquer Trapezous.
    Where did you get that information from. That seems to highly doubtful.

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    So sayeth an unsourced wikipedia claim.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_...#Early_history


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    So sayeth an unsourced wikipedia claim.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_...#Early_history
    Wow! That's pretty weak right there. Armenia had been split in two ever since it had been absorbed into the Persian Empire. It was split between the 13th and 18th Satrapies (iirc), but were merged together when the Satrap Yervand I (or II) was granted lordship over Lesser Armenia as well as Greater Armenia. They never held Trapezous (what a load of crap that is) and Lesser Armenia was hardly an independent kingdom for any of our time period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot View Post
    Wow! That's pretty weak right there. Armenia had been split in two ever since it had been absorbed into the Persian Empire. It was split between the 13th and 18th Satrapies (iirc), but were merged together when the Satrap Yervand I (or II) was granted lordship over Lesser Armenia as well as Greater Armenia. They never held Trapezous (what a load of crap that is) and Lesser Armenia was hardly an independent kingdom for any of our time period.

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    In that case I withdraw Pokr Hayk (I never really got around to looking at them much).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Populus Romanus View Post
    I have two ideas for the "unguessed faction". Tylis, founded after the invasion of Greece by Brennus and currently at the height of its power.:sun:
    Yes I did found that kingdom BUT it was conquered by the Thracians within two generations. Tylis was a robber kingdom, a supplier of mercenaries and a thorn in the side of Thrake and Macedon, nothing more. It certainly is not a suitable candidate for a faction, especially when you consider the longevity of its cousin Galatia.

    On another note how is work progressing on the Bellovaci/Suessiones, Foot?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Brennus View Post
    Yes I did found that kingdom BUT it was conquered by the Thracians within two generations. Tylis was a robber kingdom, a supplier of mercenaries and a thorn in the side of Thrake and Macedon, nothing more. It certainly is not a suitable candidate for a faction, especially when you consider the longevity of its cousin Galatia.
    You shall die either tommorrow or the day after tommorrow, depending upon how fast I can research.

    Also, I retract my withdrawl of Pokr Hayk. The fact that they survived until Rome came knocking has to stand for something. However, I can't be bothered to research further, as I am devoting myself to Tylis.
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    Hmm… what about the Dardanians? Mixed Thracian, Illyrian, and Celtic culture, a constant thorn in the side of Makedon, and as I recall responsible for the death of several of the Antigonid dynasty's kings.
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