An Occultus Faction possibly worked out?

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

Faction performance in EB ≠ faction performance in EBII

True this.. but, and without much knowledge of M2:TW's campaign AI, I can't see how - given a clear stretch of Eleutheroi provinces between their starting point and the Southern most Celtic faction (which will, seemingly, be reduced to one province) - that they won't still become an overly powerful force within Europe without a viable Celtiberian counter-faction. Of course...I might be wrong, as I say I'm not familiar (at all) with what is possible with 'Eleutheroi' provinces in M2:TW.

[bobbin]

That is running on the assumption that the other factions won't be expanding, remember that Carthage has territory right next to them and will be more expansive due to the AI being better with sea invasions in M2TW.

There are also loads of other factors to consider, such as how their units perform in battles and so on.

[fomalhaut]

Yep if there is one sure thing in EBI it is that the Lusotan's are going to conquer Iberia. No one ever mentions the brown death -_-

[Brennus]

I would imagine the Occulus symbol to look something like this:



I hope that upload worked.

This is a shot from my ongoing (failing) Aedui campaign showing an Eleutheroi general.

The image on the banner is (at least I think) what is referred to by numismaticians as "The Norfolk Wolf", it appears on Iceni coinage of the late 1st Century and 1st Century AD.

NOW! I know your all going to say:

1. That is too late for EBIIs time period
2. Another British faction has already been ruled out (and even then my money would be on the Trinovantes or Atrebates if there were to be another one)
3. It's the wrong shape.

Yes Im aware of all these things, what I mean is that the Occultus symbol is likely to be similar to this and therefore represents a Celtic faction.

[Populus Romanus]

Well, if it is the wrong shape...I cannot see that being right.

[Tuuvi]

Brennus has a point it's likely the symbol is Celtic. If not then we can at least rule out it being greek.

[fomalhaut]

i've been under the impression that the occultus was some silly thing like Roman Ninjas, at least the name sounds so

[stratigos vasilios]

i've been under the impression that the occultus was some silly thing like Roman Ninjas, at least the name sounds so

Isn't it Latin for 'hidden'?

EDIT: How's this...

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Please hold your applause at my awesome graphic design skills...

[Andronikos]

Please hold your applause at my awesome graphic design skills...

(sorry, I could not resist)

Anyway, this seems to be a very good guess, they do look like products of the same culture.

EDIT: after further examination, that occulutus symbol looks to me like it's head points to the left and it's something like wolf (or even panther) with the hump being it's wings (so it's some griffin)

[XSamatan]

some silly thing

The EB-Team never does any silly things. We are full of discipline, honesty and readiness to make sacrifices so EB2 becomes a perfect modification.

XSamatan

[fomalhaut]

oh so i guess Roman Ninjas are out then?
;)

[bobbin]

Only for the first release.

[XSamatan]

I'm sure you will take comfort in flaming pigs to scare of elephants.

[Populus Romanus]

The EB-Team never does any silly things. We are full of discipline, honesty and readiness to make sacrifices so EB2 becomes a perfect modification.

XSamatan

So torturing us with these signatures makes EB2 perfect?

[fomalhaut]

I'm sure you will take comfort in flaming pigs to scare of elephants.

i personally want female horses in heat. on fire. ridden by roman ninjas.

[Brennus]

Well, if it is the wrong shape...I cannot see that being right.

Yes I know that, that's why I said it was the wrong shape.

[anubis88]

IMHO it's impossible to figure out this occultus sign... Even if you magically find the exact same variation of the symbol the EB team used, i think 99% of people would dissmissit it without even mentioning it... It's just to tough.

I do have a question tough... I would like to see what was under the Lugiones occultus sign (which symbol) if possible

[bobbin]

I cannot find the orginal picture but I know it was a version of the header usd in the lugiones preview.

[Brennus]

Would you be willing to tell us which cultural group the last Occultus faction belongs to (if only to silence the "It must be Syracuse/Jews/Illyria" people)?

[Populus Romanus]

It is in the Mercuro-Bartix Culture Group, emergent in 1017 AD.

[anubis88]

I cannot find the orginal picture but I know it was a version of the header usd in the lugiones preview.

Lol, that was impossible to discover, since basically the best theory was that there were trees in the background, which could be symbol of almost every faction :)

Thanks tough,

[stratigos vasilios]

Theory: The occultus sigs are not actually the sigs of the hidden faction, their just there to buy the team time while they figure out what is the hidden faction!

Possible? Yes. Probable? God no.

Meh, now I'm just spamming.

[fomalhaut]

what it is is something to get you guys all worked up because the team likes to have fun with the project too. "heh heh look at them!"

[Macilrille]

i personally want female horses in heat. on fire. ridden by roman ninjas.

Damn! He found us out!!!

[stratigos vasilios]

Sourceless guess: Eastern Iberia!

Now thread, resurrect!

[Brennus]

Sourceless guess: Eastern Iberia!

Very difficult to do I imaggine, my knowledge of the polities of Eastern Iberia is alsmot non existent but considering the Iberians spoke an non-Indo European language I could imagine there being great difficulties in reconstructing such a faction.

Now thread, resurrect!

Well done doctor!

[moonburn]

Sourceless guess: Eastern Iberia!

Now thread, resurrect!

if they put a georgian faction in i think they´ll run into problems with the russians :X

as anyone noticed the resemblance beteween faction and facism :? (ok extremist left wingers can take it from here i think)

[Brennus]

if they put a georgian faction in i think they´ll run into problems with the russians :X

as anyone noticed the resemblance beteween faction and facism :? (ok extremist left wingers can take it from here i think)

You will have Ludens after you if your not careful.

[Ca Putt]

well it's pronounced totally different and btw it's spelled with an s before the C. I don't think the words are related in any way. :P

Iberia, well why not? I'd bet there is at least one new faction in that region tho my money would be on antropane, iberia beeing on second place.

[bobbin]

Very difficult to do I imaggine, my knowledge of the polities of Eastern Iberia is alsmot non existent but considering the Iberians spoke an non-Indo European language I could imagine there being great difficulties in reconstructing such a faction.

Well the Georgians still speak an ancestor of that language so it wouldn't that much harder than reconstructing most of the other factions. I think you may be confused with the Iberian language of western Europe, of which much less is know about.