Overzealous moderation

**Husar** · 03-28-2011, 19:41

There are things at work which are way above your paygrades, the kingdom of peace and love is not really the place where you express your hatred, maybe this would fly in the Backroom but even there threads are sometimes closed with "I don't think any good can come from this OP..." so I don't get why certain members who I really don't like anymore keep whining here*.

On a more serious note, we had a lot of complaints about degrading quality of Frontroom threads, mods started to crack down on them a bit and now they're accused of being forum nazis. Additionally, some of them are relatively new and you expect them to act with the expertship that you have gained over the years, one wonders why you people stopped moderating if clearly those who replace you cannot come up to your standards? I have seriously no idea about the reasons but "I would have done this so much better" really isn't the best or friendliest advice you can give someone, neither is discussing this in public in what looks like an attempt to undermine the current mods' credibility.

Let's just say at the moment is a bad time to post anything potentially inflammatory in the Frontroom and there are specific reasons for this.

*non-serious remark referencing the thread which the whole fuss here is about, no offense intended

**Monk** · 03-28-2011, 20:33

Originally Posted by Husar

On a more serious note, we had a lot of complaints about degrading quality of Frontroom threads, mods started to crack down on them a bit and now they're accused of being forum nazis. Additionally, some of them are relatively new and you expect them to act with the expertship that you have gained over the years, one wonders why you people stopped moderating if clearly those who replace you cannot come up to your standards? I have seriously no idea about the reasons but "I would have done this so much better" really isn't the best or friendliest advice you can give someone, neither is discussing this in public in what looks like an attempt to undermine the current mods' credibility.

If that's what you think i've been doing then let me congratulate you on missing the point entirely. The main difference between myself now and myself as a moderator two years ago is pretty simple. I would have brought this up in the staff section then, since i don't have access to it, i air my disagreements here in the watchtower. That is what this forum is for, isn't it, or did that change when i wasn't looking? I saw a member of the staff make a decision i disagreed with so here I am.

I would have thought almost 7 years of contributions with narry a warning point would get the point across that my intentions were pure. Clearly, the answer is no. So thanks for playing I guess.

Originally Posted by Andres

Maybe a firm "this can go on, but we're watching" would have been better, but I don't see the locking of that particular thread as an awful decision.

I'm in the minority and I know nothing said or done here will influence policy or the decision itself. So let's just agree to move on.

**Secura** · 03-28-2011, 20:43

Originally Posted by Monk

I'm in the minority and I know nothing said or done here will influence policy or the decision itself.

Actually, I'm taking onboard all the input from both this thread and the suggestions one; you're more than welcome to approach me privately if you wish to discuss it further.

**Monk** · 03-28-2011, 20:47

Originally Posted by Secura

Actually, I'm taking onboard all the input from both this thread and the suggestions one; you're more than welcome to approach me privately if you wish to discuss it further.

I've said all I care to.

**Husar** · 03-28-2011, 22:10

Originally Posted by Monk

If that's what you think i've been doing then let me congratulate you on missing the point entirely. The main difference between myself now and myself as a moderator two years ago is pretty simple. I would have brought this up in the staff section then, since i don't have access to it, i air my disagreements here in the watchtower. That is what this forum is for, isn't it, or did that change when i wasn't looking? I saw a member of the staff make a decision i disagreed with so here I am.

I would have thought almost 7 years of contributions with narry a warning point would get the point across that my intentions were pure. Clearly, the answer is no. So thanks for playing I guess.

Nonono, that paragraph was mostly addressed at Caravel, I don't remember you pointing out your superior moderatorship anywhere.

I think you partly have a point about that particular thread not breaking the rules, but as I said in the last paragraph, it's a bad time to post inflammatory things in the Frontroom and after some members have seriously exploited their freedom, it was decided to crack down more on troublemakers, at least until members learn to behave, an announcement of that was made as well.
This thread started out as something that would attract all the troublemakers and make them say bad things about other members, things that could then not be made unread/unheard again, so it was closed, because the Frontroom is supposed to be the kingdom of peace and love and not the place where you strongly disagree with others, that's more a thing of the Backroom.

That's how I see it and why I think the decision was okay, maybe a bit borderline but still on the okay-side of things, the intention is not to keep people from discussing things but to stop them from fighting eachother. Now you can say every thread has that potential, but this one had a very high potential for that in my opinion.