I take things as I find them, Africa is a hole now because of the way it is being run, and it is being run by Africans. I can't change the past, so I am not overly worried about it, in any case your charactarisation is crude - in many places in Africa (i.e. S. Africa) educational standards are actually falling under the post-colonial system, and law and order are deteriorating.
And you seen no correlation between that and aparthied? I'm not a big fan of the revenge tactics the ANC uses to whip up the populace but there is a reason it whips them up, there is a reason they pursue things contradictory to their own interests. It's worth noting most white south africans live out their days in the commenwealth complaining about the hellhole they created while the blacks are stuck footing the bill

A shakesperian tragedy

This particlar African president was so oppressed he went to university in Paris, but his children's generation are so free they all live in huts and are menaced by bandits
And that is why we call it exploitation old bean

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Well without European intervention, Africa wouldn't exactly be a bastion of the free world. The reality is without colonization Africa would have 0 democracies today.

But this rhetoric about European's having blood on their hands, or Africans crawling back to their European masters, is pretty pointless.

Just deal with things as they are now.
And Ireland would still be a hellhole had the English not had the good sense to give it a leg up