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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    Would you rather live in a Western culture or an Islamic one? Would you rather live in America or Mexico? Culture is worth preserving, especially if the alternative is far worse.
    Becuase these immagrants wont assimalate

    Just like the Irish,Germans,Italians, Poles, Jews ECETERA ECETERA

    You're also delusional if you think the culture of Mexico and America are seperated by anything but language
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    You're also delusional if you think the culture of Mexico and America are seperated by anything but language
    Left southern Texas much?

    Oregon, Ohio, Massachussets - these are not Yucatan.

    There is a process of acculturation in the US, notably in the Southwest, where the difference between Hispanics and others is fading. Even outside the contact epicentre this is noticable. Latin America is starting to resemble North America at an even faster pace than the US is becoming hispanicised.

    Sometimes I see videos on the web or on the news about some six lane highway, white-coloured SUVs, a large gas station, drive-thru restaurant, and I would've sworn it it was the US, and it turns out to be Colombia, or Brazil. Even the people look similar, and I don't just mean ethnically. Same short hair, same semi-baggy clothes, same body types - those typically American half-fit, half-overweight huge bodies.

    I guess the same thing is going on in Europe. I went to Marseille some time ago and I would've sworn I was in Marrakech.
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    Becuase these immagrants wont assimalate

    Just like the Irish,Germans,Italians, Poles, Jews ECETERA ECETERA
    You've listed several different groups of Europeans migrating into a European-structured country. And the larger groups did indeed change the fabric of the nation, some for the better and some for the worse. Say what you will, but WASP culture turned this backwater into a superpower and delivered to it unheard of levels of wealth and prosperity, and its dissolution has largely underpinned our current failings.

    You're also delusional if you think the culture of Mexico and America are seperated by anything but language
    I think you're so enamored with your own self righteousness that you've lost touch with reality.

    Culture is variable across peoples and nations, and not every culture is equal. Humanity has been so traumatized by the wars and genocides of the 20th century that it has become politically correct to assume equality not only in race, but in every aspect of humanity. While noble on an individual level, when this assumption of equality is then extrapolated to nations and culture, it becomes highly dangerous.

    There are reasons why Mexico is different than the United States, just as there are reasons why Spain is different than Germany and Saudi Arabia is different than France. Those reasons are universally underpinned by cultural dimensions.

    Have you ever heard of Geert Hofstede?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger View Post
    You've listed several different groups of Europeans migrating into a European-structured country. And the larger groups did indeed change the fabric of the nation, some for the better and some for the worse. Say what you will, but WASP culture turned this backwater into a superpower and delivered to it unheard of levels of wealth and prosperity, and its dissolution has largely underpinned our current failings.
    The same WASPS whom spent us into debt and got us into wars of empire, clearly they know what there doing.

    I think you're so enamored with your own self righteousness that you've lost touch with reality.
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    Culture is variable across peoples and nations, and not every culture is equal. Humanity has been so traumatized by the wars and genocides of the 20th century that it has become politically correct to assume equality not only in race, but in every aspect of humanity. While noble on an individual level, when this assumption of equality is then extrapolated to nations and culture, it becomes highly dangerous.

    There are reasons why Mexico is different than the United States, just as there are reasons why Spain is different than Germany and Saudi Arabia is different than France. Those reasons are universally underpinned by cultural dimensions.
    MOst of these differences can be traced back to money, besides I know the sons and daughters of these Mexicans immagrants will become more Americanized, like all the others. Sure they will change us a bit but thats always how these things work

    Have you ever heard of Geert Hofstede?
    No but a quick wiki search does not impress me, culture shock from Holland to England? Really?

    Left southern Texas much?

    Oregon, Ohio, Massachussets - these are not Yucatan.

    There is a process of acculturation in the US, notably in the Southwest, where the difference between Hispanics and others is fading. Even outside the contact epicentre this is noticable. Latin America is starting to resemble North America at an even faster pace than the US is becoming hispanicised.

    Sometimes I see videos on the web or on the news about some six lane highway, white-coloured SUVs, a large gas station, drive-thru restaurant, and I would've sworn it it was the US, and it turns out to be Colombia, or Brazil. Even the people look similar, and I don't just mean ethnically. Same short hair, same semi-baggy clothes, same body types - those typically American half-fit, half-overweight huge bodies.

    I guess the same thing is going on in Europe. I went to Marseille some time ago and I would've sworn I was in Marrakech.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

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