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    "All immigrants are unemployed and lazy. They're just taking advantage of our welfare system!"
    "But I know a lot of immigrants who have jobs, and who aren't like that at all."
    "Well... uhm... THEY'RE TAKING OUR JOBS!!!11"



    Circular reasoning, anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paltmull View Post
    "All immigrants are unemployed and lazy. They're just taking advantage of our welfare system!"
    "But I know a lot of immigrants who have jobs, and who aren't like that at all."
    "Well... uhm... THEY'RE TAKING OUR JOBS!!!11"



    Circular reasoning, anyone?
    Rubbish.

    They take all our jobs, and they are all on welfare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paltmull View Post
    "All immigrants are unemployed and lazy. They're just taking advantage of our welfare system!"
    "But I know a lot of immigrants who have jobs, and who aren't like that at all."
    "Well... uhm... THEY'RE TAKING OUR JOBS!!!11"



    Circular reasoning, anyone?
    They do both, and in both cases they are being unhelpful.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    They do both, and in both cases they are being unhelpful.
    Nonsense!

    They will only take your job if they can do it better than you. And when better people are employed, our economy gets better, which in turn creates even more jobs, which means that even lazy brits can get one.
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    They get jobs also if they are willing to do it when locals are not.

    Those with jobs can then bring in the rest of their family. Not in itself a problem at all as long as they are desiring to integrate. But often they are not.

    It also creates more and more who drag the economy down as they do not have jobs, but require housing, food etc. Why get a job when one can not have one officially, get handouts and discounts and then do something else off the books?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Nonsense!

    They will only take your job if they can do it better than you. And when better people are employed, our economy gets better, which in turn creates even more jobs, which means that even lazy brits can get one.
    The thing is we could do without the competition because when there's more people than jobs then its idiotic to invite more in. And immigrants will often get priority because its easier to pay them under the minimum wage.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    The thing is we could do without the competition because when there's more people than jobs then its idiotic to invite more in. And immigrants will often get priority because its easier to pay them under the minimum wage.
    More competition for jobs equals lower pay, and rising pay is the main enemy of export activity, and exports is sgain crucial to economic growth. Therefore, keeping immigrants from taking jobs from brits leads to economic stagnation, which in turns leads to british people getting laid off. Thus, to ensure that british people have jobs, immigrants needs to take their jobs.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Nonsense. Immigrants don't take jobs from Brits, because Brits don't want to work that regime for such lousy payment. Sainsbury's has a really simple business proposition: scale up (i.e. fewer shops), or hire Poles to work 6AM - 10PM. Otherwise the local shops are simply not profitable. Then take credit for keeping open local shops thereby giving the villagers the idea that somehow something is actually still going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    More competition for jobs equals lower pay, and rising pay is the main enemy of export activity, and exports is sgain crucial to economic growth. Therefore, keeping immigrants from taking jobs from brits leads to economic stagnation, which in turns leads to british people getting laid off. Thus, to ensure that british people have jobs, immigrants needs to take their jobs.
    I.e. White working class male Brit is screwed regardless of government policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    I.e. White working class male Brit is screwed regardless of government policy
    No. The increased economic growth that results from immigrants taking low-paid jobs results in jobs created for the british working class.

    So in summary, immigrants taking the jobs from the british means that the british can get a job.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Thus, to ensure that british people have jobs, immigrants needs to take their jobs.
    HoreTore, you are doing that thing where you want something to be true so you decide that it is going to be true... as can be seen from statements like the above.

    When exactly should working class Britons expect to reap the benefits if the system works the way you say it does? They've been coming in in droves for a few decades now and I haven't seen it yet...

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    Same here. They seem politer and seem genuinely concerned about things and situations. Average whitie doesn't even know the day of the week it is, never mind having an actual opinion on something more complex than a slobbering half-hanged jaw.
    Also true I guess. They tend to be pretty well informed and aren't all just a giant Labour block vote, a lot of them are small business owners so they vote Tory.
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    "want something to be true"?

    Immigration keeps wages down. Low wages strengthens the export industry. A strong export sector is the fundation of a strong and growing economy. A growing economy creates more jobs.

    Don't let your marxist side cloud your vision, Rhy. Zero unemployment and high wages look quite appealing, but it will lead to en economic collapse in a very short while. Some unemployment and sensible wages are key to sustainable economic growth.

    And when will the british cash in? They already have, living standards have been rising dramatically for the last 30 years in all of europe. "Coincidentally", that's also the period where we have had immigration.
    Last edited by HoreTore; 04-17-2011 at 23:43.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paltmull View Post
    "All immigrants are unemployed and lazy. They're just taking advantage of our welfare system!"
    "But I know a lot of immigrants who have jobs, and who aren't like that at all."
    "Well... uhm... THEY'RE TAKING OUR JOBS!!!11"



    Circular reasoning, anyone?
    Nobody ever said all so no there is no circular reason, anywhere

    No caps to be found either, only in your post

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