Christianity

[Zarky]

I tried that, and no you cannot build a nanban port once you acquire a province with one.

So the "smart" thing to do if you're going for Christian Shimazu is not capture that province until you've started building your own in Satsuma. Also I think you should build Nanban Quarter to that eastern central province because then the conversion bonus would affect 5/8 of Kyushu. Also better for naval recruitment, closer to action.

There are plenty of reasons not to convert, one being much easier campaign and second is that if you're like me, you're sick of guns after paying for ETW and NTW. Not cannons though, cannons are always cool.

[nafod]

So the "smart" thing to do if you're going for Christian Shimazu is not capture that province until you've started building your own in Satsuma. Also I think you should build Nanban Quarter to that eastern central province because then the conversion bonus would affect 5/8 of Kyushu. Also better for naval recruitment, closer to action.

There are plenty of reasons not to convert, one being much easier campaign and second is that if you're like me, you're sick of guns after paying for ETW and NTW. Not cannons though, cannons are always cool.

I'd agree, with there being plenty of reasons not to convert but, in my opinion the strengths of Christianity far outweigh the negatives. The most noticeable one being the inability to recruit warrior monks. I find the diplomatic penalty to be irrelevant in most cases.

[Monk]

I'd agree, with there being plenty of reasons not to convert but, in my opinion the strengths of Christianity far outweigh the negatives. The most noticeable one being the inability to recruit warrior monks. I find the diplomatic penalty to be irrelevant in most cases.

I haven't swapped to christianity, but i've found once you're rolling you can pretty much prevent people from declaring war on you - as long as you're willing to pay. Regular tribute's a good way to stay in the good graces of any faction and keep you hovering on "indifferent" and "friendly"

I imagine if you convert, you just gotta be more ontop of it.

[HopAlongBunny]

I might give it a try in present Chokosabe campaign.

For some reason I'm at -50 with all factions and RD hasn't even hit yet (I only have 6 provinces)
The religion modifier can't make it any worse.

[Leptomeninges]

I finally got around to playing my Shimazu/Christian/VH campaign.

I converted fairly early (~turn 20 or so?). I started building a Nanban Quarter in Satsuma and then conquered the rest of Kyushu including the Nanban Quarter in Bungo. (This works by the way. The first Nanban Quarter will complete if you have it queued and conquer another.) As I'd never converted previously, I hadn't really realized how strong the Nanban Quarter is compared with the Nanban Port and how much wealth they generate.

Although other posters commented on it, I was most struck by how Christianity slows down the pace of conquest. The need to garrison and convert newly captured provinces means that you can't roll over an enemy once you've broken their defensive crust and have them on their heels. Bear in mind that it's not just the religious unrest you have to deal with. On VH I picked up a two "dishonor" happiness penalty to my daimyo for converting. (Don't know if it's different on other difficulties.) This together with the religious unrest combined with possible new conquest unhappiness is no joke. It really brings an offensive push to a halt. I've even had to fight a few rebel armies in newly conquered territories which I've never done before. Kyushu wasn't too big a problem as the north was largely Christian already, but conquest on the Mori-dominated Western mainland has really slowed relative to previous games I've played.

This has actually made the game much more interesting as the slowed conquest lengthens the mid-game which in my opinion is the biggest weakness of Shogun 2. Perhaps the stronger Ikko Ikki DLC clan will achieve something similar by causing a "religion roadblock" in the middle of the map.

The other thing I've noticed is how tight money is. This is largely due to the fact that I used a lot of province tax exemptions to ride out the unrest. I've survived on trade income the last ~25 turns since conversion. Thank heavens I own the four Western nodes plus the iron node in the northeast. Probably it would have been better to build up more robust garrisons to maintain some taxation while converting.

Nanban trade ships are awesome and relatively low maintenance for their value. I haven't found many opportunities to use cannon yet.

I know there was a question in another thread about Chrisian missionaries and revolutions. So far my agents are causing revolutions like pros and with very high percentage success rates. I think my first attempt for a newly minted level 1 missionary was 55%. But I'll have to look more closely at that thread to see what was being asked and how my experience compares.

[knoddy]

question....

How do u convert, currently playing Mori, own like 5 or so provinces really want to convert but dont know how :S also i dont even have the option to build naban trade ports

[Quintus.JC]

question....

How do u convert, currently playing Mori, own like 5 or so provinces really want to convert but dont know how :S also i dont even have the option to build naban trade ports

You can convert religion by going to the manage clan bit with the family tree. You should be able to convert once you see the event message regarding Christianity; However, I don't think you are able to before you build a naban trade port first. Once you convert religion you may reverse the convertion only through the death of your Daimyo, so choose wisely.

[Rahwana]

There are plenty of reasons not to convert, one being much easier campaign and second is that if you're like me, you're sick of guns after paying for ETW and NTW. Not cannons though, cannons are always cool.

sick of guns? I never get sick of guns, especially when they are the most reliable troops in the field (ok, their morale isn't great, but getting tired micromanaging melee troops took the toll as well)

[Marshall Louis-Nicolas Davout]

I would not convert,in the game sense really.

The Matchlock ashaguri are good ,but not that good,the friebombers are ok.

There are many ways to defeat the peasent matchlock,even the samurai matchlock are no good.

No,I would not do it.