Askthepizzaguy Mafia II: The Revengening [Concluded]

[Beskar]

Hmm? You were right that he, for the purposes of this game, was a townie? So you voted for him in round 1 while predicting he was a townie?

No, I was right that he was evil, because only evil people would steal Beefy187's avatar.

[Death is yonder]

EDIT: Hey you up there, Death is Yonder, you do know I'm dead and I killed a mafia... right?

Oops

I tend to skim really quickly, didn't even realize that you were El Gigante, just saw that El Gigante killed Seon and was content with that snippet of information before moving on.

Fold;
Bet 1 Credit: Psychonaut

Greed is baaad

[Kagemusha]

Hmm? You were right that he, for the purposes of this game, was a townie? So you voted for him in round 1 while predicting he was a townie?

I was semi expecting a "wow I was right with Seon all along" instead

Anyway,

Vote: Animator to DiY if only to provide some comfort that I won't be killed super early for the third game in a row.

And also Bet: 3 Credits on Byzantine Knight, quotation reasons spoilered to avoid a longer post.

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Odd reasoning followed by an odd backdown. A quick re-read shows that he had a post in thread about an hour before his bet post, which clearly shows his reasoning of Renata "saying 'what' in a way that offended me deeply" to be a silly and hasty back down.

Seon's 10 cred bet on him was interesting, but since he was being wishy washy with it I didn't think it was that significant in being factored in here

On Renata, I'm more inclined to believe that she wouldn't be so silly as to link herself so early with a scum buddy, and Seon post-death responses looks like he's just trying to fuel the fire deliberately.

Since the Anti-Mafia faction force [win] by simply having more credits overall, I'm disinclined to pursue the Renata case, especially since it looks to me like Seon is capitalizing on Kage's posts to incite people to post a larger bet on her.

There is only two options for Seon to react towards accusations against Renata . I suggest for people to put small bets on Renata and if someone decides to mess up those bets, it will only mean the person has agenda of sorts. Lets dont overthink.It is a simple process of elimination. Scattering bets to all directions makes it easier for people to hide amongst the bets.

[shlin28]

About the items, I really don't think we should pick the easy route and VOTE EVERY FRICKIN' THING FOR MYSELFZ - it would be only too easy for someone chaotic to get lots of free loot and/or hide themselves amongst the mob of people trying to get free loot. Can't we at least try to limit ourselves to one or two items each? You know, for the good of the evil people and stuff

[Death is yonder]

There is only two options for Seon to react towards accusations against Renata . I suggest for people to put small bets on Renata and if someone decides to mess up those bets, it will only mean the person has agenda of sorts. Lets dont overthink.It is a simple process of elimination. Scattering bets to all directions makes it easier for people to hide amongst the bets.

Likewise, concentrating bets on Renata allows people to hop on semi-freely, but I guess that point is debatable :s

Anyway, the phase is probably 48 hours long (judging by the previous day phase), I guess I'll see what Renata has to say and retain my wager first.

Can't we at least try to limit ourselves to one or two items each?

[classical_hero]

Not a good night for my faction. :( Hopefully it was my kill that got the retaliation on the attacker.

[landlubber]

Vote: Killer Rabbit to myself.

[Seon]

There is only two options for Seon to react towards accusations against Renata . I suggest for people to put small bets on Renata and if someone decides to mess up those bets, it will only mean the person has agenda of sorts. Lets dont overthink.It is a simple process of elimination. Scattering bets to all directions makes it easier for people to hide amongst the bets.

Listen to Kage's voice, the voice of reason people.

I mean, come on, do you really think that I would be the one to trick you with things like...Reverse Psychology?

I mean, seriously now.

[Kagemusha]

Listen to Kage's voice, the voice of reason people.

I mean, come on, do you really think that I would be the one to trick you with things like...Reverse Psychology?

I mean, seriously now.

Im happy we agree. Why it would be your logic, when there is entire chaotic faction of your buddies? :P

[Seon]

Hey don't be like that. Everybody knows that we dead folks are maginalized, left for dead and stepped upon. We have to stick out for each other.

[Beskar]

About the items, I really don't think we should pick the easy route and VOTE EVERY FRICKIN' THING FOR MYSELFZ - it would be only too easy for someone chaotic to get lots of free loot and/or hide themselves amongst the mob of people trying to get free loot. Can't we at least try to limit ourselves to one or two items each? You know, for the good of the evil people and stuff

Not really, as who ever gets the item to able to investigate will be attacked asap.

[Seon]

Not really, as who ever gets the item to able to investigate will be attacked asap.

Nonsense, see, if anybody gets said investigative ability, anybody with a brain will say "Oh look! A likely target!" and then protect him. And the Chaotics, if they have any brain, would also tend to avoid said target because it's likely to be protected!

See, it all makes sense! What you should do is to give the guy the prophet item, and then protect somebody else! See, no mafia would ever dare target the guy with the detective item.

No ulterior motive here. Honest. I want to help you people. If you don't do as I say, I will be turning in my grave.

Speaking of graves, would anybody mind rezzing me? Thanks.

[Beskar]

Nonsense, see, if anybody gets said investigative ability, anybody with a brain will say "Oh look! A likely target!" and then protect him. And the Chaotics, if they have any brain, would also tend to avoid said target because it's likely to be protected!

See, it all makes sense! What you should do is to give the guy the prophet item, and then protect somebody else! See, no mafia would ever dare target the guy with the detective item.

That is false. Only if the target is protected by a connected Town Information Network, especially as you will have use up credits in order to arrange a protection on the target and people will not be willing to part with them so easily.

Plus there would be immense pressure from town (/mafia pretending to be town) on the investigator in order to attempt to discredit them and have them lynched.

That is something I can bet on with certainty.

Also: With the amount of kills last night, mafia can afford to make the town keep using up all their credits to protect some one and they can afford to keep trying to have them killed.

[dcmort93]

I think I'm going to have to agree with Kage's reasoning and Bet 1 credit on Renata
Also:
Vote: Killer Rabbit To myself
Vote: Animator To myself
Vote: Cartoon Mallet To myself
Vote: Virus Sample To myself
Vote: Custom Desert Eagle To myself

[autolycus]

Vote:Desert Eagle to myself
Bet: 2 Creds on Renata For the moment, El Gigante is the best guide I've got.
Will vote items to others for reciprocity.
Also, for whatever it means, the clubs are getting mauled.

[Major Robert Dump]

A lot of deaths night on 1, so either people got extremely lucky and found their hidden talents or they dropped a lot of cash on purchased vig actions.

I figured people would just start voting things to themselves. We need to start making drug deals and trading bets and item votes to get items, so if any other townies want to negotiate, I am game. PM me for negotiations.

I am curious what happens in the event of item vote ties.

I am also curious why SEON was 2 characters.

I am also curious about the cards, as so far there is no distinct pattern between dead people of the same faction.

[Beskar]

I am also curious why SEON was 2 characters.

Seon was the games "Mafia" (as in, ones we need to kill). Plus, throw out anything he says out the window as he will only say things to distract the town.

[ByzantineKnight]

A lot of deaths night on 1, so either people got extremely lucky and found their hidden talents or they dropped a lot of cash on purchased vig actions.

Most people probably tried vig actions and a few of them probably succeded. Remember, there are still anti-mafia out there (such as dcmort)

I am also curious why SEON was 2 characters.

First was his cover-role, second was his actual role.

I am also curious about the cards, as so far there is no distinct pattern between dead people of the same faction.

Me and Seon were both clubs, and his cover role was the same faction I am.

Also, lynch all hearts please. They are my least favorite suite.

[Kagemusha]

Most people probably tried vig actions and a few of them probably succeded. Remember, there are still anti-mafia out there (such as dcmort)



First was his cover-role, second was his actual role.



Me and Seon were both clubs, and his cover role was the same faction I am.

Also, lynch all hearts please. They are my least favorite suite.

Yes some might have done a vig kill.

[Diana Abnoba]

Bet: 2 credits on Renata

[ByzantineKnight]

Yes some might have done a vig kill.

I believe there is evil in the hearts of man. Plus most people have fun killing other people because its way more exciting than protecting other people. I bet out of all the groups taking actions last night, more tried a vig kill than more town-friendly actions such as investigation.

ATPG, knowing human nature as he does knew that he could only entrust this ability to a chosen few. Which is why there were so few kills. Also, no sign of anyone investigating... bad town...

EDIT: Also. Stop voting Renata. Let's get some other people squirming.

[Diana Abnoba]

PUFFY SHIRT- to myself

TRAITOROUS ELF- to ArpeggiateTHIS

ANIMATOR- to myself

CARTOON MALLET- to captain blackadder

OMEGA VIRUS SAMPLE- to beskar

CUSTOM DESERT EAGLE- to DIY

KILLER RABBIT- to myself

[Beskar]

Get voting Kage too. He is easy to read under pressure.

Fold; Bet 20: Kagemusha

[Kagemusha]

Get voting Kage too. He is easy to read under pressure.

Fold; Bet 20: Kagemusha

Only problem is that im dead.

[dcmort93]

Most people probably tried vig actions and a few of them probably succeded. Remember, there are still anti-mafia out there (such as dcmort)

Care to explain why you are trying to draw attention to me?

[Kagemusha]

I believe there is evil in the hearts of man. Plus most people have fun killing other people because its way more exciting than protecting other people. I bet out of all the groups taking actions last night, more tried a vig kill than more town-friendly actions such as investigation.

Have you taken a good look at your own heart?As one should know his own heart, before talking about the hearts of others.

[ByzantineKnight]

Have you taken a good look at your own heart?As one should know his own heart, before talking about the hearts of others.

Of course, I most certainly did not try and vig kill. Besides, I'm a good stout club the hearts are the evil scumbags. By which I mean anti-evil

[Bow-wow-wow]

Bet: 2 credits on Renata

I would also love to vote all the items to myself but it seems like everybody will do that. I really want to be carful to not vote anything to one of my enemies though.

[Kagemusha]

Of course, I most certainly did not try and vig kill. Besides, I'm a good stout club the hearts are the evil scumbags. By which I mean anti-evil

Just wondering because it was a huge towering figure that killed me. So you are calling me anti-evil? Nope.I am as evil as it gets. :P

[ByzantineKnight]

Bet: 2 credits on Renata

BAD Bow-wow-wow. Spread the votes a little. I don't care if you lynch her but see if you can get other people flinching. The more people we have sweating it out near the end of the round the more information we have late game to analyze.