There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Well, I stopped expecting to hear this news years ago. I'm glad that the world's number one manhunt is finally over, and for the message it sends that we won't let up on something this important. Good work to Obama and US intelligence. I hope this will be a serious blow to AQ morale.
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"I do not yet know how chivalry will fare in these calamitous times of ours." --- Don Quixote
"I have no words, my voice is in my sword." --- Shakespeare
"I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it." --- Jack Handey
One head off the monstrous hydra he helped create.
Liquidation no less, no time for all that silly courtroom nonsense, witness testimonies, trial, etc.
I'd liked to have seen him explain why his ideology makes 12-year-olds strap on suicide bombs.
But anyway, now what? NATO can pull out of Afghanistan and save face. Cool. But what about the Afghans? Will the world allow the Taliban to return to power and oust that douchebag president/restaurant owner in Kabul? And what will Pakistan's excuse be? Don't tell me ISI didn't know OBL was living where he did.
Oh, and to whoever collects the reward on this one, thanks for the tip.
"The ink of the scholar is more holy than the blood of the martyr."
“I only defended myself and the honor of my family” - Nazanin
@Banquo: Fair enough.
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Goldstein is dead?
Hmmmmmm...
Unto each good man a good dog
I don’t know how anyone else feels about the news that they buried his body at sea, only a couple of hours after they said they killed him but to me it makes no sense.
It can not be a stupid error either.
I think I smell a rat.
Education: that which reveals to the wise,
and conceals from the stupid,
the vast limits of their knowledge.
Mark Twain
there is no way for the US government to win on this discussion....if they buried him at sea people will claim it sounds fishy....
If Obama had Bin Laden's ass stuffed and posed on the oval office people would claim the body was a fake.
parading his body around would probably send the wrong message.....the man's importance was a symbolic one...and there is the whole martyrdom angle....
"If given the choice to be the shepherd or the sheep... be the wolf"
-Josh Homme
"That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!"
- Calvin
It strikes me as a perfectly intelligent thing to do.
Islam permits burial at sea and it has been done within 24 hours as required. It removes any possibility of shrines etc or the diplomatic problem of no-one (especially Saudi Arabia) wanting his body.
If you refer to the possibility that people will question his death, there are already enough photographs of the body available to convince the skeptic. DNA has been taken. And those who would concoct conspiracy theories will do so anyway - one awaits Mr Trump's interpretation of events with popcorn.
A good decision among many good decisions by the President and his advisors (if it proves true as reported).
"If there is a sin against life, it consists not so much in despairing as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this one."
Albert Camus "Noces"
a symbolic death of a symbolic figure....he was no more than a figurehead to inspire nutjobs...now the nutjobs will claim he's a martyr...the game goes on.
Step up the security for a few months I guess....a few retaliatory terrorist action attempts are to be expected.
P.S. - Donald Trump says he isn´t buying this and wants to see a verified death certificate!
P.S.S. - Any one like me who is a wrestling fan knows what might have pushed Osama over the edge last night...
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"If given the choice to be the shepherd or the sheep... be the wolf"
-Josh Homme
"That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!"
- Calvin
Great news to start up your day with! America, **** YEAH!
@ACIN: Sorry, old chap, but your question is disingenuous. We did not hate Osama because "he celebrated death". We hated him because, amongst other reasons, he was a massmurdering terrorist. Of course its right for us to celebrate him being brought to justice with our bullets.
@The Mad Arab: Your attempt to invoke sympathy for a massmurdering fascist who wished to destroy everything that is culture and reinstate an old oppressive empire is telling.
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It does make some sense to burry him at sea to deny him a martyrs grave site but to do it so quickly raises too many questions.
It makes me think that this is world class political grandstanding.
Did they kill him?
Was he already dead and this just a way to gain political points?
Is it all a lie?
Also this would have been known at the time of the first anouncment, why not tell us then?
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Education: that which reveals to the wise,
and conceals from the stupid,
the vast limits of their knowledge.
Mark Twain
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CHECK Osama bin Laden killed
CHECK Disastrous tsunami
CHECK Nuclear disaster
CHECK Revolution in Tunisia
CHECK Revolution in Egypt
CHECK Civil war to oust Gadaffi
CHECK Mass unrest in Syria
CHECK Yet another Western military intervention
It's been an eventful year thus far, alright. Looks like the world is going to end in 2012, after all?
So, he's gone - but whether it matters much, remains to be seen.
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Some people simply deserve to die. I have no moral problems with celebrating the death of people like Bin Laden, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc. Point out the hypocrisies all you want, as they are certainly there, but it doesn't change the fact that in this specific case I believe this specific man deserved death.
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