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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    ...is it not possible all the stories we heard quoted about human shields and the like in the news were ye know made up by the tv and papers.
    No, as I understand it, the story about the wife as human shield came from a White House briefing on Monday, retracted on Tuesday.

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    I think we still don't know enough...
    Having just typed that, the latest I read is that the rules of engagement were not to let him surrender unless he was naked.

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    Not to burst your bubble of the all knowing all powerful evil CIA/USA military establishment but ...
    I don't know who you think I am (have I ever said the USA was evil?), but one thing I love about the US is how open with information it seems to be. That's why I usually tend to incline more to the cock-up than conspiracy theories when it comes to these changing stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21 View Post
    I don't know who you think I am (have I ever said the USA was evil?), but one thing I love about the US is how open with information it seems to be. That's why I usually tend to incline more to the cock-up than conspiracy theories when it comes to these changing stories.
    My thought as well. I mean, why would the White House even try to correct this stuff at quite a cost to themselves? It's not like there are any witnesses left that are going to be believed.

    They do it because America is still a great country that tries its best to be open. Sure, it fails a lot and gets flack for it, but that's only because we get to know.

    Anyway, I liked the wife-shield story. For a man who sent young nutters to fly into buildings to murder thousands of innocent people going about their day's work, hiding behind his wife in a firefight was actually quite a step up cowardice-wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21 View Post
    I don't know who you think I am (have I ever said the USA was evil?), but one thing I love about the US is how open with information it seems to be. That's why I usually tend to incline more to the cock-up than conspiracy theories when it comes to these changing stories.
    Sorry that was my fault the start of your earlier piece has the feel of someone who wants to believe the worst of the USA, however I reread it and saw that stupidly I missed the change in the second half of the post. I also tend to go with the same in regard to these incidents I don't believe that anyone can keep these kinds of things secret for long so I usually disregard any talk of conspiracies etc.

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    Having just typed that, the latest I read is that the rules of engagement were not to let him surrender unless he was naked.
    Apparently twas because he might have a suicide vest on.
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    All the media fluff is pointless.

    OBL is dead. He was executed by the United States.

    Executed is not a loaded term in this context. If he had been returned to the U.S. and stood trial for the death of thousands of people, the end result would be the same.

    Who knows, maybe PlanA was to get him out alive; perhaps the sacrifice of one helicopter and PlanB simply made changes "necessary".

    In any case, job well done SEALS.
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