Askthepizzaguy Mafia II: The Revengening [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

The round has ended, and I have to calculate the results and stuff. Will do ASAP. Don't wait up, I was also thinking about sending out updated role cards to everyone who is still alive, since it's been 5 rounds.

This will probably eat into the day phase, so, I may have to begin the day later on today.

Yeah, it was a particularly active night and I have a lot of updates to do. I've also already been at this computer for many hours today, and my fingers are cramping up. I will need the extra time.

I could churn out a writeup, but no way could I do the result PMs and Card updates. And I don't want to advance to the day phase without being able to tell you each individually what happened.

It will get better, especially as people keep dying off. Give me until tonight to get this done, since I have a work shift and errands to run.

[Visor]

Take as much time as you want.

[Believer]

The suspense is killing me!

[Diamondeye]

The suspense is killing me!

That's what they want you to believe!

[Visor]

Whose? Humor me; I missed half the weekend.

No. If you can take the time to post cases on me and mythmonster, surely you can look up other people's posts. Especially someone with as many posts in this thread as him. What is your point here?

[Renata]

You said "look at his post". Whose post? Auto's or someone else's? What the heck is the big deal about a simple request?

[God Emperor]

@Greyblades - I, along with Renata, went over your post, and before focusing more on your other posts, there is one in particular I would like you to comment on. I direct you to the following quote:

Eh it was more a jab at how he was giving him items I myself wanted than actual suspicion. Anyway he might not be a townie, remember the town is evil; glorious light doesnt sound very evil, he could have been revived and recruited from a good aligned faction.

This observation is based on the writeup that says 'glorious light' . . We have not vitnessed a good alligned faction at all, so how could you reach an idea that suggests that there is a good alligned faction ? This at least prompted suspicion so we went digging a little further into the matter - from the rules of the game:

Anyone who shares your alignment [evil, chaotic, neutral, etc] will be on your team. For the purposes of a team victory, neutral is considered part of your team, regardless of your team. So they can go both ways. Shifty buggers..

with the 'etc' part from the rules, your suggestion does not even seem impossible.. and if so, then what you perform is an act of PIS in your quote. So could you elaborate on what is going on here ?:)

[Greyblades]

@Greyblades - I, along with Renata, went over your post, and before focusing more on your other posts, there is one in particular I would like you to comment on. I direct you to the following quote:


This observation is based on the writeup that says 'glorious light' . . We have not vitnessed a good alligned faction at all, so how could you reach an idea that suggests that there is a good alligned faction ? This at least prompted suspicion so we went digging a little further into the matter - from the rules of the game:

Anyone who shares your alignment [evil, chaotic, neutral, etc] will be on your team. For the purposes of a team victory, neutral is considered part of your team, regardless of your team. So they can go both ways. Shifty buggers..

with the 'etc' part from the rules, your suggestion does not even seem impossible.. and if so, then what you perform is an act of PIS in your quote. So could you elaborate on what is going on here ?:)

Assumptions. I was kinda wondering if someone getting resurrected could go badly for the town (for selfish reasons I'll admit - I really wanted that tanooki suit) and my mind got caught on the glorious light bit and how it didn't realy fit with the rest of the game(heck it was in a blue font for crying out loud). If it wasnt for that bit I probably would have written it off as someone trying to set up a town network by getting someone confirmed town to center on; though even then, why they got him instead of, say, seon or the flax is odd.

[Renata]

@ Grayblades:

Your voting history is exceptionally self-interested. All of your item votes with the exception of the attempted "trade" with Visorslash have been for yourself, and most have been for self-defense or retaliation items. You placed no lynching votes for the first few days (but some of those item votes came during this period). You did vote Earthling early yesterday (and a big bet at that), but retracted it once the bandwagon on mythmonster got started. Specifically, you retracted it at a point where your unvote put mythmonster ahead of Earthling in the tally. You voted mythmonster yourself later, but only after he had implied he'd been willing to vig you. I'd like to hear what you were thinking through that period.

[Greyblades]

I'd like to hear what you were thinking through that period.

Honestly? First 2-3 days; "I gotta survive until the mafia's comeback is over so I can concentrate on this game."
After that it was mostly "I've found out my hidden talent was a bulletproof ability, but its not 100% I need to reenforce it before acting and attracting attention from any mafia/wannabe vigilantes" and "That guy tried to kill me!"

[Renata]

I meant the large bet on Earthling, and retracting it without immediately voting for mythmonster (or anyone else) instead. Unless that's what you meant by "survive without attracting attention".

[Greyblades]

The night before that someone stole a load of my credits, I had been hording it for item steals and after that I tried to get it back by getting lucky by betting large on what I thought was an almost confirmed chaotic,but I got cold feet as I was betting almost all my credits on him.
Then mythmonster said he had tried to kill me but failed due to getting the order in late, yet I still got a post saying I was attacked that night (incidentaly thats what revealed my hidden talent) so not only had he tried to kill me, I believed he lied about not being able to, so I bet on him.

[mythmonster2]

Then mythmonster said he had tried to kill me but failed due to getting the order in late, yet I still got a post saying I was attacked that night (incidentaly thats what revealed my hidden talent) so not only had he tried to kill me, I believed he lied about not being able to, so I bet on him.

Which night was this again? Night 3 was the one which I was unable to put in orders due to lateness, and you were my target from Ren that day.

[Greyblades]

Yeah night 3.

[mythmonster2]

In that case, I would either think that Renata set more than one person on you, or you just got targeted by someone else.

[Greyblades]

...Hrm... You wouldnt happen to know why she sent you after me before I acted up?

[Renata]

Because at that point you were doing nothing at all but voting yourself an item every so often.

It's not quite that simple, but it'll do.

[Greyblades]

And what? You'd kill me instead of asking me why I wasn't being active or telling me to be more active? Charming.

[Renata]

I know; it's terrible of me isn't it.

[Greyblades]

Nice to know mythmonster isn't important enough to keep out of danger.

[Renata]

I actually don't know what you're referring to there.

[Greyblades]

Heh, it seems carelessness is not an ailment I suffer alone.
Think back to my outburst over jolt, then look over the summary thread, I'm sure you'll figure it out.

[Renata]

Anyone else wants to try to do what I'm trying to do, be my guest.

[Major Robert Dump]

I heard that everyone died last night

[Earthling]

Oh that's beyond scummy Greyblades. First you told Renata to go see the Day Two item tally specifically, to see the Cartoon Mallet you were voted and makes up your oh-so-fearsome retaliation, but now you just want to confuse her with something vague? Though at this point it doesn't matter for tonight, night orders were locked and any of us could be dead tomorrow and make this little argument moot. You're at the point of full reveal or die territory to me though.

As for Renata - "not quite that simple" means "I left out the part where I'm only trying to get power for my faction and its allies and kill our factional rivals" right? You, Believer, Bow-wow-wow, all this scan info you have both has yielded no results yet and it's detrimental to the town not to share and coordinate, but you each must just be after getting only your own faction together. That's going to kill the town and we all know it at this point.

[Greyblades]

...Thanks Earthling, I was trying to play the guy with all the cards routine but you just have to be a party pooper.
Reneta you sent mythmonster to kill me even though it was known I had a chance of killing him, either you didn't remember it or you didnt care if he died, considering what little I know of your play style I'm inclined to think the latter.

[mythmonster2]

Ah the joys of being completely out of the loop and not knowing what anyone is talking about.

[Beskar]

Ah the joys of being completely out of the loop and not knowing what anyone is talking about.

I will do the summary of the collective contributions in a manner you may understand.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Anyone else wants to try to do what I'm trying to do, be my guest.

Lead the town in circles, making them waste lynches on obvious fail-wagons and making sure chaotics are not lynched or night killed?

I think you are doing a great job of it.

[Earthling]

Beskar, you and Jolt are both failing with this dead neutral thing, that's not helping the town either. Seems a very good chance the Space Mafia and Psychotic Mafia are enemies (would be lovely mythmonster if you could reveal that again though, your enemies already know who you are, it'd just be helping third party townies) and while you dead guys can't reveal that you are trying to get people killed on that basis.

Though Renata has ended up with like a 20:1 "Renata spends credits to start a wagon, folds, and lets other people waste theirs" ratio. On top of getting other people to use their night actions and presumably a lot of credits for her. That also has an easy solution that should have happened yesterday though, if she's not killed tonight and if Innocent now might be about the time that happens anyway, which is that we get her to make and stick to a full bet against our chaotic candidate tomorrow.

[Greyblades]

Lead the town in circles, making them waste lynches on obvious fail-wagons and making sure chaotics are not lynched or night killed?

I think you are doing a great job of it.

There wasnt a portal mafia that was included in the lineup by any chance? I think I found GLaDOS.

Beskar, you and Jolt are both failing with this dead neutral thing, that's not helping the town either.

Isn't the whole point of neutrals that they dont have to help anyone?