Quote Originally Posted by The Stranger View Post
i have to disagree. thats a wrong picture you have of philosophy. and history just for the sake of history does exist. go read gadamer about t XD

i dont believe that when you study history you always actually study the real world. its just a representation and usually a very misguided one due the timelapse. what you actually study are the ideas you have of a past world and if you have any sense you try to understand it in order to use it for the present world. but imo there is nothing actual about it.
True historians study hard facts and do solid research, it's not just "ideas... of a past world." It is no more theoretical than archaeology, which is itself little more than history in science form. History specifically attempts to remove personal bias and opinion from material, and proper historical texts will devote a great deal of time in explaining the inherent flaws in the objectivity of the sources so that the reader will be able to take those things into account when assembling the information into a coherent whole. There is no greater criticism for a historian than to say they are not being objective. There is no right and wrong in history, no morality, there is only determining what happened and what did not.

What you describe is history as created by Herodotus. True history is that which follows in the footsteps of Thucydides.