The Campground [Concluded]

**Chaotix** · 05-18-2011, 20:58

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

**Renata** · 05-18-2011, 21:05

**Andres** · 05-18-2011, 21:27

@Reenk

Yes, Pizza has put Chaotix into the tie. One of the reasons I don't think they're scumbuddies and why I said it's probably option b), Chaotix is Pizza's scapegoat.

I never made a case against Scienter. I've always said it was a strong gut feeling.

Vote : Scienter

**TheLastDays** · 05-18-2011, 21:38

Now this I don't get, after all the case(s) you brought forward you won't vote for ATPG but rather for someone who you have a gut feeling for?
I'm not saying that I'm sure ATPG is scum, rather I have a hard time buying your arguments, Andres...

**Renata** · 05-18-2011, 21:40

Likewise.

Andres, why did you change your vote during the DE/Chaotix runoff?

**Andres** · 05-18-2011, 21:43

Originally Posted by Renata

Likewise.

Andres, why did you change your vote during the DE/Chaotix runoff?

ATPG asked me that question too and I already answered it.

My Chaotix vote was a 'logical' follow-up of my previous joke post. Then I voted D_E because he was around and said he was a liar. As I said, I wasn't very active had the time and hadn't been following the game closely, so I was fine with any of those two lynched. Fate decided I had to vote Diamondeye. If Chaotix would have posted after that interaction, I might have switched back to him again for being too noisy.

**Renata** · 05-18-2011, 21:50

Thing is I sort of agree with your "gut feel" on Scienter, but I want you lynched as well. If I were looking for the sort of unserious mutual bussing you originally accused AtPG and Chaotix of anywhere else, it would be you and Scienter. You give her a nice friendly poke on day two, she eventually votes you back (way late in the day, no consequences). There was nothing between you on day three IIRC. I have not yet reviewed day four, really, was there anythign there?

**Andres** · 05-18-2011, 21:40

Originally Posted by TheLastDays

Now this I don't get, after all the case(s) you brought forward you won't vote for ATPG but rather for someone who you have a gut feeling for?
I'm not saying that I'm sure ATPG is scum, rather I have a hard time buying your arguments, Andres...

I value my gut feelings higher than my ability to analyse posts and behaviour.

So, for all the talk about ATPG, I will first follow my gut feeling against Scienter.

**Reenk Roink** · 05-19-2011, 00:45

Originally Posted by Renata

Can you tell us why you think Atpg is innocent please?

Also what do you think of john here. He rouses my suspicion for some reason. I would have killed him already if I was Mafia.

Originally Posted by Andres

@Reenk

Yes, Pizza has put Chaotix into the tie. One of the reasons I don't think they're scumbuddies and why I said it's probably option b), Chaotix is Pizza's scapegoat.

I never made a case against Scienter. I've always said it was a strong gut feeling.

Hmm, fair enough on the evasion part then.

But now I find your case to be really contrived. I mean, Atpg and Chaotix have this clear connection but it is because Atpg wants to use it as a screen for Scienter. Also, if this is what you think, why aren't you voting for Atpg. Certainly he's been flagged more, already has a vote on him, and will be an easier lynch than Scienter who probably won't get a big showing given the thing with you and Atpg/Chaotix.

**Renata** · 05-19-2011, 01:18

Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Can you tell us why you think Atpg is innocent please?

Day One. Late and unnecessary vote change from Scienter (who was never in danger of lynch) to Who Am I. ATPG's change made it 3 for Who Am I, 3 for Zack, and 2 for Reenk. You are a townie, and Zack probably was, therefore ATPG's not saving a scumbuddy by making this shift. Nor does he seem to be doing it for "look how townie I am reasons" (although it was a solid move given Zack's unlikely-to-be-scum behavior) -- he never makes an issue of it then or later. It looks townie to me.

As well he appears to come out much the better in the debate with Andres from last night, though I haven't read that closely enough to be really confident.

Also what do you think of john here. He rouses my suspicion for some reason. I would have killed him already if I was Mafia.

Absent putting Zack in the lead on day one, my overall impression is "safe". He voted one-offs on days two and three and is going with Andres here.

**B-Wing** · 05-19-2011, 01:37

Why was I killed? I thought laying low was scummy behavior, and therefore, I shouldn't have been a target. Oh well. I'd vote for Andres this round.