Truthers, Birthers, Deathers; now ... um ... Assasinators? Massacrers? Shootingers?

[lars573]

I had never considered it from that angle. Interesting. What would be the extraordinary outcome of faking the moon landing, then? And what would be the outcome of a giant conspiracy to murder JFK? (Assuming the death of a sitting president is not, in and of itself, a giant outcome, and, hmmm, maybe that's enough in and of itself.)

On the moon landing: To make sure that JFK's challenge was met.

On JFK getting slotted: To put a more agreeable (to the anti-commie reactionaries in the US military and intelligence services) man in the top spot

[Ituralde]

On the moon landing: To make sure that JFK's challenge was met.

On JFK getting slotted: To put a more agreeable (to the anti-commie reactionaries in the US military and intelligence services) man in the top spot

So first they make him look good and then they kill him?

Nah, guess I've heard crazier theories.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Get a life people.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Having been an interested observer of US politics and government since the early 1970s, I can readily assert that I would be stunned to find out that our government or elements thereof could be even a tenth as coordinated or a 100th as secretive as some of these conspiracies would have us believe.

These conspiracies are the "best plans" of a government that intervened in a civil war in Southeast Asia but for years refused to bomb or damage the enemy's primary industrial/transpo center; of an administration that staged a break-in of the opposing political party's local headquarters using 3rd-tier criminals....to defeat an opponent who was already so marginalized that he would go on to win only 17 of the 538 electoral votes; or a subsequent administration that fomented rebellion in Iran and then were surprised that, after 40 years of working with the Shah, many Iranians were less than happy with the USA and unwilling to love us for our recent change of heart....

Examples can continue ad nauseum, but I think you take my point.

[Shibumi]

Having been an interested observer of US politics and government since the early 1970s, I can readily assert that I would be stunned to find out that our government or elements thereof could be even a tenth as coordinated or a 100th as secretive as some of these conspiracies would have us believe.

These conspiracies are the "best plans" of a government that intervened in a civil war in Southeast Asia but for years refused to bomb or damage the enemy's primary industrial/transpo center; of an administration that staged a break-in of the opposing political party's local headquarters using 3rd-tier criminals....to defeat an opponent who was already so marginalized that he would go on to win only 17 of the 538 electoral votes; or a subsequent administration that fomented rebellion in Iran and then were surprised that, after 40 years of working with the Shah, many Iranians were less than happy with the USA and unwilling to love us for our recent change of heart....

Examples can continue ad nauseum, but I think you take my point.

That is pretty much my view of conspiracy theories too. Governments just seem too stupid to actually be able to pull it off.

But then, we could always blame the Illuminati..

[jirisys]

That is pretty much my view of conspiracy theories too. Governments just seem too stupid to actually be able to pull it off.

But then, we could always blame the Illuminati..

Well, people have been stupider so it can be pulled off. In El Salvador, billions of dollars have been stolen from everywhere, "diputados" (assemblymen) are now so secluded in their own power nest, will not do anything good for the people before stealing some couple thousand bucks in return.

People that denounce this are called commies and few of them ever give out word on the streets. We all know what's happening. But most people don't care, as long as they have sth to eat, and money from their families in the US.

What are you talking about? That is not your 9/11. Your San Salvadorian, not Chilean.

First, San Salvador is not a country, it's a city. My father's mother's side of the family is chilean. I therefore, am chilean by nacionality.

~Jirisys ()

[Xiahou]

Popular Mechanics on WTC7
The building was built straddling an electrical substation- a feat that required some complicated engineering and load transfers. Some weakness in the right support columns would be all it'd take to make the building unstable. And the building suffered significant damage from debris. I really don't see any mystery here.

[lars573]

So first they make him look good and then they kill him?

Nah, guess I've heard crazier theories.

Other way round. JFK is a prime example of killing the man, and creating a martyr.