Apparently Anthony might not have come completely clean. X-Rated photos too.
Apparently Anthony might not have come completely clean. X-Rated photos too.
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*
Here's something I don't get: Why should Weiner resign when David Vitter is still serving? Soliciting a prostitute is a crime; twitting your wiener is not. Demanding that prostitutes put you in diapers is kinky enough that most people can't relate; sexting is so common as to be almost beneath comment.
Is it because Vitter apologized right away? Is it because his party generally stood by him? Other factors?
Help me understand. Clearly there is a big difference between the two scandals, but I'm not quite getting it.
First off, let me say it would have been perfectly fine with me had he resigned. However, there are some substantial differences.
The criminal aspect is largely moot for he was never even charged, let alone convicted of any illegal behavior. Additionally, Vitter was in elected office, but not in the Senate when the acts occurred. Along those lines, his dalliances were last known to have happened in 2001- they weren't revealed until 2007, I think that lessened the shock factor for many. (ie: He called a hooker 6 years ago? Meh)
Now we're onto the big reasons. Vitter did not issue repeated, outraged denials, lying about what he had done- which would have been a big deal to me. And he got support from his party for purely political reasons- they didn't want the Democrat governor naming his replacement if he resigned.Is it because Vitter apologized right away? Is it because his party generally stood by him? Other factors?
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"Don't believe everything you read online."
-Abraham Lincoln
Google news throwing this story in my face. Apparently a poll was done whether or not his constituents want him to resign. Most people said no.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56681.html
Headline winner of the day (even if it's only on the internets): Wiener strokes Dems, comes under pressure: no plans to pull out.
Police interviewed a 17 year old over direct communications with Weiner. This could get much worse for him before it gets better.
The only thing that would be worse than this would be if he fathered multiple children out of wedlock with his slave mistress
I would never look to that man for giudance
I have like 10 more of these so if someone wants to spell this out for our slower members I'd appreciate it
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*
To be fair, it wasn't a mistess who exposed a wiener this time......
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
It is Summer in the USA, season of high-budget hollywood schlock and political sex scandals.
Weiner has a mild perv streak...so what? Between him and his constituents and he and his spouse.
Weiner took some of the pictures in the House gym...so what? He wasn't exposing the wedding tackle in front of the state seal of NY and texting "for a good time call Congress." He did not spend tax money on the photos. Again, between him and his voters.
Near as I can tell, he's not broken any laws and, arguably, hasn't even broken his wedding vows (officiated by Bill "don't leave a mess on the dress" Clinton).
Ultimately, I really don't care if he's got a thing for doing patio furniture. If he hasn't misappropriated funds or the like, it doesn't signify.
Now, bad judgement regarding coverups and lying to the press? Failure to apply common sense to his behavior? Many etc.? THESE are valid questions for his constituents. I'm in VA. I say let's get back to excoriating Obamacare, balancing the federal budget, and trying to see if there is any reasonable way to make the blood we have spent in Iraq and Afghanistan pay off.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*
"If given the choice to be the shepherd or the sheep... be the wolf"
-Josh Homme
"That's the difference between me and the rest of the world! Happiness isn't good enough for me! I demand euphoria!"
- Calvin
Extend the same restrictions to parenting and we can take care of this problem for generations...or permanently.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
Get your order in fast before they run out. Anthony Weiner Action Figure.
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"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*
Weiner to resign. Stand-up comics everywhere cry tears of sadness.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Ultimately this seems to be about power. Clinton did worse and lied, but he was the prez, so he stayed on. (Even profited when the Senate overreached with that impeachment.) Vitter did kinkier but he was an important part of a Senate caucus, so he stayed on.
Or something like that. Why did Larry Craig have to go? Because of the gay thing? Head hurting. I do not understand why some survive sex scandals and some do not. There must be a logic behind it, but I don't get it. Probably just a question of who is in a powerful enough position to weather the media storm.
Still, I guess this is some sort of landmark, the first major US politician to resign over sexting.
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The more I think about this the less I understand. Why did Chris Lee resign? All he did was send a shirtless pic to a woman who had a post on the Women Seeking Men page of CraigsList.
We think of all politicians as being shameless, but people are different. Lee may have been less prepared to go through the ongoing public humiliation than Weiner apparently was. It takes a special kind of sociopath to ride that wave and come out on top. Personally, I would never show my face in public again after such a revelation.
Ever know a sexual pervert/predator to get caught on his very first attempt? There was more in Lee's past that he didn't want to go public. It's a shame that tax cheating law breakers such as Charlie Wrangel get to play the race card and get away with nothing more than a stinkin' censure from Congress. The bum should be doing time and forfeit his pension. Unfortunately there are too many of his colleagues with similar skeletons in the closet to ever expect Congress to agree to voluntarily impose meaningful effective deterrents to such corrupt behavior.
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*
I strongly support Anthony Wiener and most of his policy positions. He made a very stupid personal choice and that makes him human, and possibly not worthy of continuing to hold public office in the eyes of many.
People are too hung up on sex-related things. Business as usual in Washington is one moral atrocity after another, corruption rampant, waste unimaginable. How many billions of dollars did we send to Afghanistan, literally airlifted in, that no one can find traces of? Who is resigning over that?
But whatever. Moral outrage trumps logical outrage.
Sure, he should resign, but because he lied repeatedly about it. That's the only part that concerns me. I want folks I can trust to tell me the truth. But honestly, most of those scumbags in D.C should resign for far more egregious and sinister lies.
Hypocrisy and lying are worse than legal sexual behavior, in my view. He's only got to answer to his wife and family for that. But hypocrisy and lying aren't acceptable.
#Winstontoostrong
#Montytoostronger
I think he resigned now, is it not?
"When the candles are out all women are fair."
-Plutarch, Coniugia Praecepta 46
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