Londons SlutWalk

[Rhyfelwyr]

Which brings us back to the whole purpose of the SlutWalks, respect.

But is it that simple?

I don't really respect the "slutty" style of dressing, because of my values.

Yet I think that any man that so much as touches a woman (however she is dressed) without her consent should be visited upon by an angry mob and have his kneecaps smashed in.

[Fragony]

But is it that simple?

I don't really respect the "slutty" style of dressing, because of my values.

Don't like it either, hotpants are worst. Such a lack of class just depresses me like pretty things. It isn't even sexy.

Talking about London and England in general... certainly the worst 'offenders' both in clothing and behaviour, a Dutch girl would never dress up/get wasted like that..

[Secura]

Do you think it's working? I don't, the men who already respect women are a little bemused and the rest get a free oggle.

I guess that how successful it is boils down to interpretation, but as a whole... I agree, the walks aren't going to change much, but then that's just the culture we live in, I don't think any form of medium will change that; if I ask people to stop being sexist on the internet, for example, I'm more likely to get "where's my sandwich?" than a positive response!

None of that, however, means that a woman should dress provocatively, even if she should be safe to do so.

Nor is there anything to say that she shouldn't, right?

So you're saying that if a woman shows cleavage men are wired to look - and women know this? :P

It's not just men though, women are wired to look at one another too, though the context might not be the same; while a man might be thinking about that plunging neckline, I might be thinking of how horizontal stripes don't flatter her figure, for example.

And yes, we know that people are going to look...

WE obviously do make collective decisions, as gender groups, religious groups, age groups. If the male gender decide that rape is ok, or women are just chattles there is a very limited amount which women can do to change that - unless some men decide women are worth listening to.

Can we really say that works on a gender level as it does with religion or culture? I don't think so, because these other factors get in the way; European and American men collectively saying that objectifying women is bad doesn't mean that their counterparts across the world are going to share the same view, particularly when there's things like religion that portray women in a certain fashion.

Note: I think women are worth listening to.

That's good to know. :3

Yet I think that any man that so much as touches a woman (however she is dressed) without her consent should be visited upon by an angry mob and have his kneecaps smashed in.

And what if it's a woman doing it to a man? Or another woman? Do they receive the same treatment? I don't think that mob justice would solve anything; paedophiles have been subjected to this alot over the years, but that hasn't deterred other people from doing it, and it won't work in this situation either.

If I strap on sparkly chaps and body glitter and dance onstage to a crowd of howling moderators, I am, in fact, hoping to be objectified in a very pleasant sort of way.

Well, that's the entertainment booked for the staff party...

Talking about London and England in general... certainly the worst 'offenders' both in clothing and behaviour, a Dutch girl would never dress up/get wasted like that..

Apart from the Dutch lady in that photograph who had her boobs out entirely, right?