Mafia X [Concluded]

[[MAFIA] Luigi]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

(please ignore)

[[MAFIA] Claudia]

Dissection time...

Claudia:

vote: Christopher. I am sure I saw you munching on a chicken leg.

Random vote.

True, but he did specifically mention chicken after Chickenman got killed.

vote: Rocco
Waiting for your dirty results and voted after the required academic quarter. A little too smooth...

The person to first post after a phase always draws attention to themselves. This post is a bit scummy to me.

The first person(s) should get a little attention as Mafia do tend to wait for the results and post accordingly.

I would like a tally... Could some of you boys help a lady?

Lazy.

Incorrect assessment.

vote: Bugsy getting gipsy about having to kill a lot of townies, huh?

Nonsensical vote.

Not at all... this is my main case against Bugsy. He blatantly asked for 11 WoGs, which I have already explained why is scummy.

My phone? What are you drinking? I am using Chrome as a browser for this game... on a laptop.
Maybe you should check your intelligence source? That person might be Mafia...

Gets defensive about possible phone posting. TBH, my account says all my posts are from a mobile device, even when I'm on my desktop computer or laptop. So I don't see this as scum.

Defensive = don't like to be wrongfully accused. Nothing particularly scummy about standing up for what is right. You should stop treating this as indication of scummieness. In fact - I would assert that anyone accusing someone for wanting to be heard, want's to kill discussion. And that my friends, is quite scummy.

I like Johnny's reasoning.
We are taking you down scum - vote: Bugsy

Gets a supporter, helps.

Can't lynch someone with one vote.

This is ridiculous.
I voted Bugys first of all because he was trying to pressure the host into getting rid of players. He specifically asked for 11 WoGs. Using my logic, that would just help the mafia getting rid of people to kill and provide fewer rounds to be caught.

You might think that getting rid of players is helpful narrowing down mafia candidates. But let’s not kid ourselves; we don’t want to indulge the Mafiosi the service of a shorter game by lessening the kill pool. Time is a resource we need. Time is not what Mafiosi wants; they want dead townies, as fast as possible.

You have forced my hand:
Vote: Connie

Sounds like frustrated peron. Actually sounds a bit like Greyblades.

Just pointing out why I voted as I did. Reading back would have made my re-posting unnecessary. Getting the votes i did, I had to help the lazy bastards.

Show me the evidence where I posted via mobile phone, which was the original accusation. And what kind of bogus accusation is that anyway?
I wager that both candidats for the lynch this round is innocent. So who it finally will be is less important. I am just saying, Bugsy is scum.

Suspicious IMO.

Not very good at this are we?

Conclusion: Not as scummy as Connie, probably should be kept alive for another round

Who are you to give advice of whom to keep or whom to let go? "Keep alive for another round?" Nonsensical dribble.

I know you are an innocent townie, but I have to speak up when the seeds of lies creeps into the game.

[Visor]

True, but he did specifically mention chicken after Chickenman got killed.

And that makes him scum.

The first person(s) should get a little attention as Mafia do tend to wait for the results and post accordingly.

To each their own.

Incorrect assessment.

You ask someone else to do something you could do yourself = lazy.

Not at all... this is my main case against Bugsy. He blatantly asked for 11 WoGs, which I have already explained why is scummy.

A mafia would never ask for 11 WoG's unless it was a joke. IT draws too much suspiscion.

Defensive = don't like to be wrongfully accused. Nothing particularly scummy about standing up for what is right. You should stop treating this as indication of scummieness. In fact - I would assert that anyone accusing someone for wanting to be heard, want's to kill discussion. And that my friends, is quite scummy.

Notice I said it wasn't scum. Try reading what I post.

Such as:

So I don't see this as scum.

Can't lynch someone with one vote.

Just posting a fact.

Just pointing out why I voted as I did. Reading back would have made my re-posting unnecessary. Getting the votes i did, I had to help the lazy bastards.

You're one to talk of lazyness. :P

Not very good at this are we?

If you're talking about me, then I got lazy at the end.

Who are you to give advice of whom to keep or whom to let go? "Keep alive for another round?" Nonsensical dribble.

I'm sorry, what?

I am a townie player, and I have an interest in seeing the town win.

Now this is certainly curious for me. I said they should keep you alive and kill Connie instead, so I am technically against killing you, at least for the moment, but you question my words? Why would you do that?

[[MAFIA] Anne]

This Claudia woman is a little bit batty, talkin' to spirits and whatnot. I can't tell who she's talking to or why. Might be good to put her in a straitjacket for her own good. Y'all sound pretty certain you know what yer talking about, but that's strange. You can't possibly be so sure based on what's happened so far. Besides, it's plainly obvious that it's Frank who is guilty. You can take it to the bank.

Try reading what I have to say! I know better'n anyone here! Pointless posturing! Yadda yadda! I AM THE MAFIA QUEEN!

[[MAFIA] Claudia]

You ask someone else to do something you could do yourself = lazy.

Still incorrect. It is called delegating.
Some pips have a fetish about lists. I don't and hence asked if someone would help out.

A mafia would never ask for 11 WoG's unless it was a joke. IT draws too much suspiscion.

Not if that player is who I think he is.

Notice I said it wasn't scum. Try reading what I post.

Stating something in that way = implying scummines. It is how I read it and it is probably how others read it.

Now this is certainly curious for me. I said they should keep you alive and kill Connie instead, so I am technically against killing you, at least for the moment, but you question my words? Why would you do that?

It was the "let's keep her alive for another round" that got me all ruffled up. You are assuming authority where none is warranted.

This Claudia woman is a little bit batty, talkin' to spirits and whatnot. I can't tell who she's talking to or why. Might be good to put her in a straitjacket for her own good. Y'all sound pretty certain you know what yer talking about, but that's strange. You can't possibly be so sure based on what's happened so far. Besides, it's plainly obvious that it's Frank who is guilty. You can take it to the bank.

Try reading what I have to say! I know better'n anyone here! Pointless posturing! Yadda yadda! I AM THE MAFIA QUEEN!

Typical, "Its too quiet in here... all dead or sometin'?" then, "Too much chatter... let's pipe down shall we?"
Nothing is good enough, eh?

[Visor]

Still incorrect. It is called delegating.
Some pips have a fetish about lists. I don't and hence asked if someone would help out.

It is called lazyness....

Not if that player is who I think he is.

Which means what? Elaborate.

Stating something in that way = implying scummines. It is how I read it and it is probably how others read it.

If they read it, they would see that I said NOT scum. You would see it too, if you read the post.

It was the "let's keep her alive for another round" that got me all ruffled up. You are assuming authority where none is warranted.

Just my opinion on the situation.

[[MAFIA] Claudia]

It is called lazyness....

No, it isn't.

Which means what? Elaborate.

That he is scum. Are you not paying attention?

If they read it, they would see that I said NOT scum. You would see it too, if you read the post.

Your "body language" said differently.

[Visor]

No, it isn't.

Yes it is. We can go in circles all day.

That he is scum. Are you not paying attention?

I mean, which player is he? Give a hint of some kind, otherwise your words are pretty useless then. (On this particular bit).

Your "body language" said differently.

*shrugs*

[TinCow]

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[[MAFIA] Claudia]

Yes it is. We can go in circles all day.

No, it isn't. I am a woman and thereby win any argument by default.

I mean, which player is he? Give a hint of some kind, otherwise your words are pretty useless then. (On this particular bit).

My words are useless?
And he has revealed himself already. You don't care to look? That is according to you, just lazy. My argument is not diminished or enhanced by knowing Bugsy's true face. He has displayed scummines in asking to kill off players which would greatly help the Mafia. Ergo, town or not, not very helpful for the town effort. Which I associate with, without emphasizing it in every post.

[[MAFIA] Bruno]

Vote: Connie

Following Visorslash.

[[MAFIA] Sonny]

(Thank you, TinCow!)

This nonsense never woulda happened if you'd all just listened to me and voted for Vincent-the-scummo.

An eh, Claudia doll? You're goin down the wrong track on that WOG thing. Maybe Bugsy's mafia and maybe he ain't, but askin for WOGs don't prove it. Don't even hint at it. I don't care who he is, mafia don't need to draw that kinda attention to theirselves when they can ask all quiet-like in private. Now you tell me Bugsy's someone who'd never do that if he was wearin his own face, an maybe that's different.

[[MAFIA] Bugsy]

Fantastic, TinCow!

Also, as to my comments on the WoGs: I hate games where the scum just fly below the radar without even voting. I have no problem with 11 WoGs if those 11 would otherwise be needed to be lynched or carried as dead weight into the endgame. Give me active players any time, even if they are less. I mean, this is a large game against two mafia. We could probably have a good shot at it even if we were a bit fewer.

[[MAFIA] Connie]

^ ah right i messed up that one a bit..................
Posts in the wrong accout.

For God's sakes man think about what your typing. I mean my Goodness lol...................
A tad hypocritical considering you posted in the wrong account and then posted in the alt account very soon afterwards.

Then posts: "Fail" twice.

Sigh i am really sorry............. didnt bold

vote: [Mafia] Bruno
Still a bit confused here. Votes Bruno because he made a comment about night. The mafia typically (IMO) won't make a comment about the night before/after Day 1. Voting for him seems scummy to me.

Votes for Pedro next, IIRC, keeping the tally even at that stage, but note Pedro was lynched.

The rocco character seems more like a clown than a killer................. or is it a clever ruse?

vote: rocco
Nonsensical vote. Makes a joke therefore scum? Never gonna be true, sorry. Case in point, me. Note Rocco was lynched.

You cannot use our fake account names to draw conclusions about who could be mafia, they're just account names. This would be like drawing the same conclusions in a non-anonymous game, figuring that one of the few females we have around, would be mafia. Doesn't work, sorry.

vote: Connie

However I like who you are voting for. Scum sauce and salsa, surely a good candidate.
Now this. this is scummy.
It's not scummy at all. Connie is looking more scum by the post.

Then again this is also pretty scummy. Make something out of nothing doncha yah.

vote: bobby
Decentish vote IMO.

Okay now this is scummy. I never voted third on a bandwagon. whether I am lynched or not I think your mafia scum is right here folks.

Also bobby is a bit scummy. Yeah he may say it was an omgused but his initial reasons for voting for me were rather deliberate at such an early stage in a game where people don't know much about each other.

obviousl,

vote: claudia

Your cases are nil on both of us but there are people acting much more scummy not to mention inactives we could all be better off voting.
Now we talk? Suspicious. Deliberate because you were acting scum. You were setting yourself up.

Also bobby has now voted for me two phases in a row which seems all too serious and not lighthearted in the slightest.
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum.

I am barely trying to find the
Yes, you are barely trying to find the scum. You cannot really blame a bandwagon starter. They don't know their vote will be a bandwagon.

Conclusion: Not looking good. Bad Townie/Scum. scum? Pray tell good sir what efforts you have made besides jumping on a bandwagon of me with a fabricated claim which is a bigger scum tell this early in the game than a nonsensical silly vote. And then starting another bandwagon with no reasoning whatsoever?

Posting in the wrong account is scummy? To me it sounds like i misunderstood the whole anon account concept and thought we were creating actual new accounts.

Yeah i posted fail twice because if you notice i edited my posts. Edited posts can't be counted as votes. In the first i accidentally edited without thinking. In the second i accidentally messed up voting, i.e. forgetting something like a colon.

OMG really. First round votes are always ridiculous. I just found some silly fabricated reason for the first round vote everyone does that it isnt a scum tell. By not jumping on another players bandwagon i did something non scummy.

Early in game i choose a candidate that was lynched so did all the other people who voted for him. are all of these players scum as well?

Silly vote. what were your votes based off of before now? Hard cold evidence and logic. The basis of the Pedro vote for instance was so people got to make funny napoleon dynamite jokes. At this time in the phase it was still joke time since nobody knows anything.

OMG!!!!!! I talk more when fighting for my life. Everybody breaking news your not scum if you meekly go to your death..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can blame a bandwagoner who consistently tries to start bandwagons on you without any real strong evidence. And i am trying to find the scum quite a bit more than a large percentage of players in this game.

I am a bad townie? what were your contributions to the town.

[[MAFIA] Connie]

(Thank you, TinCow!)

This nonsense never woulda happened if you'd all just listened to me and voted for Vincent-the-scummo.

An eh, Claudia doll? You're goin down the wrong track on that WOG thing. Maybe Bugsy's mafia and maybe he ain't, but askin for WOGs don't prove it. Don't even hint at it. I don't care who he is, mafia don't need to draw that kinda attention to theirselves when they can ask all quiet-like in private. Now you tell me Bugsy's someone who'd never do that if he was wearin his own face, an maybe that's different.

Its a double edged sword. It gives us less time to get it right while giving a greater chance of getting it right as well as lessens the ability of the mafia to hide. Most people often lynch inactives to clear up the field so im not really sure why she is getting blasted for the idea.

[[MAFIA] Connie]

Please, someone sum up the cases in point form and I'll give an opinion.

Also this. Your the one ragging on Claudia for being lazy. Why don't you look it up yourself?

[[MAFIA] Sonny]

Its a double edged sword. It gives us less time to get it right while giving a greater chance of getting it right as well as lessens the ability of the mafia to hide. Most people often lynch inactives to clear up the field so im not really sure why she is getting blasted for the idea.

Who is "she", doll?

[[MAFIA] Vincent]

Nothing's changed for me.
Vote:Connie

[[MAFIA] Sonny]

Yup, you still mafia, Vinny.

[[MAFIA] Nick]

I ought to just renew my earlier vote. We can keep an eye out on follow ups including Connie's future behavior and if we know to avoid the stupid double jeopardy mistake towns often make we'll be fine.

Vote: Claudia

[[MAFIA] Mickey]

Yup, you still mafia, Vinny.

Sonny, can we be friends?

I'm going to abstain from voting now. Don't think either of the two should be lynched.

[[MAFIA] Sonny]

No, it isn't. I am a woman and thereby win any argument by default.

My words are useless?
And he has revealed himself already. You don't care to look? That is according to you, just lazy. My argument is not diminished or enhanced by knowing Bugsy's true face.

Ain't nobody got time for chasin around wild bats. Point to the spot or stop yappin about it.

(Do we have to repeat previous votes? If so, vote: Claudia.)

[[MAFIA] Sonny]

Sonny, can we be friends?

I'm takin applications for yes-men down at the pool hall.

[[MAFIA] Bugsy]

Its a double edged sword. It gives us less time to get it right while giving a greater chance of getting it right as well as lessens the ability of the mafia to hide. Most people often lynch inactives to clear up the field so im not really sure why she is getting blasted for the idea.

It's principle more than anything. I can't understand (and have a hard time tolerating) people who sign up just to do nothing, not even play. Yes it makes it harder for the mafia to hide but first and foremost it makes the game more funny and active, and it sends a signal. "Make them an offer they cannot refuse" and so on.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting closed.

Stand by for the execution.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Chief of Police JuJuBee watched with detached interest as the villagers of the Frontroom continued their voting process for the fourth day in a row. It seemed as if the townspeople, after a rocky start, were finally getting the hang of things.

"Wait a minute, so Claudia's the lynch choice, right? All right, I'm behind that! I cast my vote for Connie!"

"No, you idiot, it's Connie that's the lynch choice, so you made the right choice in the first place, but she's still different from Claudia."

"Okay, so... Connie's actually the lynch choice? Right then, I'm changing my vote to Claudia!"

"..."

Well, JuJuBee, surmised, they did still have some kinks to work out.

Anyway, as the sun set, due to perhaps a mixup in names, perhaps not, Connie and Claudia were tied in the voting, narrowly edging out Bugsy for "first place". "Connie and Claudia?" JuJu said to himself after reading the votes out loud, "Sounds like a bad Nia Vardalos movie. Then again, they're all bad. HEY-O!!!"

With the entire remaining population of the Frontroom groaning at that horrible joke, they all resumed voting, it being - as expected - a tight back-and-forth battle between Connie and Claudia. Connie was getting rather belligerent with the voters for putting her in this position, as she smoked her fat cigar and started yelling at everyone for their perceived idiocy. This seemed to be hurting her more than helping her. But then, somebody cried out:

"HEY! LOOK, EVERYBODY! Claudia's texting in her vote!!!" Instantly people started gravitating towards Claudia and throwing votes her way, Claudia, looking utterly puzzled, could only gape in shock for a minute. Finally, she recovered enough to stammer out an explanation.

"But - I'm not texting in my vote! I don't even know how to text in a vote, especially if we're doing it by ballot box! I don't even have JuJuBee's number! I don't even have my phone with me, for God's sakes! You can't lynch me based off this! It's not right!"

But it was too late. At that moment, the Chief of Police cut off voting, leaving a very angry Claudia with nothing to do but stare daggers at everyone and mount the execution platform.

"Any last words?" JuJu said, as he revved up the day's method of execution - a chainsaw.

"This *#%! happens way too often," Claudia, also known as Sigurd, muttered, before the saw made contact.

Day 4a tally:
Claudia: 9 (Connie, Paulie, Fat Tony, Bertha, Bugsy, Salvatore, Angelo, Nick, Sonny)
Connie: 6 (Bobby, Ralph, Claudia, Luigi, Bruno, Vincent)

Abstained: 2 (Anne, Mickey)
Didn't vote: 8 (Emilio, Frank, Fredo, Giorgio, Johnny, Luciano, Pete, Richie)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (24)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bobby
Bruno
Bugsy
Connie
Emilio
Fat Tony
Frank
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luciano
Luigi
Mickey
Nick
Paulie
Pete
Ralph
Richie
Salvatore
Sonny
Vincent

Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)

Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)

Player list:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Romanic
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Visorslash
Beefy187
Greyblades
Renata
Csargo
Populus Romanus
B_Ray
White_eyes:D
Jolt
Captain Blackadder
Seon
glyphz
Ibn-Khaldun
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Diamondeye
TheLastDays
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
ArpeggiateTHIS
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88
Winston Hughes
Kagemusha
issaikhaan
a completely inoffensive name
autolycus
robbiecon
Earthling
Chaotix
Centurion1
Ashurnasirpal II
Sigurd
johnhughthom
Andres

It is now Night 5! Orders are due in 23 hours and 19 minutes. WoG warnings will go out at the start of next day phase.

[[MAFIA] Giorgio]

My apologies for missing the voting this round, got mixed up and figured it'd be alright as long as I did it before 24:00 GMT. That worked well...

[[MAFIA] Anne]

Don't think you can hide from me, Franky. I know you're still here. If you think you can make me move on to someone else just by being silent, you're wrong. Not even in the ballpark, Frank.

[Visor]

Posting in the wrong account is scummy? To me it sounds like i misunderstood the whole anon account concept and thought we were creating actual new accounts.

Didn't say it was scummy. Read the post FFS.

Yeah i posted fail twice because if you notice i edited my posts. Edited posts can't be counted as votes. In the first i accidentally edited without thinking. In the second i accidentally messed up voting, i.e. forgetting something like a colon.

Okay.

OMG really. First round votes are always ridiculous. I just found some silly fabricated reason for the first round vote everyone does that it isnt a scum tell. By not jumping on another players bandwagon i did something non scummy.

Not all the time, but most of the time, yes. I'm saying I didn't like what you did from a town perspective.

Early in game i choose a candidate that was lynched so did all the other people who voted for him. are all of these players scum as well?

Notice I didn't say that it was scummy that that person was lynched, I added it as an afterthought.

Silly vote. what were your votes based off of before now? Hard cold evidence and logic. The basis of the Pedro vote for instance was so people got to make funny napoleon dynamite jokes. At this time in the phase it was still joke time since nobody knows anything.

Meh.

OMG!!!!!! I talk more when fighting for my life. Everybody breaking news your not scum if you meekly go to your death..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you mad? I'm just posting my opninion of the situation. You're acting panicy now, which won't be good for your future prospects.

You can blame a bandwagoner who consistently tries to start bandwagons on you without any real strong evidence. And i am trying to find the scum quite a bit more than a large percentage of players in this game.

A) Someone who starts a "bandwagon" cannot be blamed. They don't know that it will turn into a bandwagon. It is the voters who agree that should have suspicion.

B) Please, show how. Besides the inactives though.

I am a bad townie? what were your contributions to the town.

I was nightkilled on night 2, IIRC, so I had no real impact on this game, through I believe, no fault of my own. This is my first real contribution.

[Sigurd]

I really like the anonymity these accounts give you. It is fun horsing around in a character knowing that the rest of the players don't know who you are.
Greyblades, heh?
And making that tally would have given my identity away... Third on the bandwagon got me lynched? What a load of superstitious drivvel...