Gay Marriage Bill Passed in New York's State Government.

[Centurion1]

I would blame the school problem on the overarching leftist educational goal of connecting more closely with children (as compared to most of the other school systems in the world), leaving no children to inferior educations (be they mentally handicapped, inner city, etc.), granting the students more power in the classroom and parents more say.

That being said i would also blame programs such as the neo cons No Child left Behind, teachers being attacked often by the media and government as easy pandering, i would also blame the administrators of schools.

Finally and most of all i blame parents.

However, all this is not the forum for this discussion

As for gays i am so strongly ambivalent i am pro gay. I have gay friends and homosexuality doesn't mean anything to me. This does not mean i care about it. I feel like both sides just use it to get votes just like abortion. I do not give a crap which a politician supports because it is radically low on my political cares list. If a vote comes up i say yes because i just want to to be done so i can stop hearing about this. Social problems are always a backseat in my mind to the economy and foreign affairs.

[Fragony]

'Fragony, that's BS. I'm not going to waste any words explaining why.'

You will have to as it's pretty simple, people who get married make a commitment to a future. Treating a dead end the same way, well I will do that. But don't ask from me to not see the difference. You also see the difference, otherwise you would just call it 'marriage' instead of 'gay marriage'. Gays shouldn't want marriage imho, it simply isn't possible to be the same thing. How would said gays feel if I can marry my business partner for tax breaks, let's devaluate what they have the same way, who are they to judge me

[Lemur]

Gays shouldn't want marriage imho

And yet they do, in droves. Strange how they want to be happy and settle down. Inexplicable, really.

[Fragony]

And yet they do, in droves. Strange how they want to be happy and settle down. Inexplicable, really.

Sure and I don't mind that, but gay marriage remains a farce. A blue car isn't a red car, just because it simply isn't

[jirisys]

Sure and I don't mind that, but gay marriage remains a farce. A blue car isn't a red car, just because it simply isn't

But both of those are cars.

Just not the same.

And no one is dumb enough to actually say that. Only those that say they are.

Also, what the post above said.

~Jirisys ()

[Fragony]

'I'd say your analogy is a farce, and entirely pointless to boot.'

Oh, k. I was just wondering what your opinion was glad you stopped by.

Again, gay marriage is a farce because it's a dead end. If Ryl and PVC feel that something has been taken from them not only do I sympathise, I agree. They will have to suck it up but it doesn't hurt trying to understand them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

'I'd say your analogy is a farce, and entirely pointless to boot.'

Oh, k. I was just wondering what your opinion was glad you stopped by.

I aim to please.

Again, gay marriage is a farce because it's a dead end.

How so?

If Ryl and PVC feel that something has been taken from them not only do I sympathise, I agree. They will have to suck it up but it doesn't hurt trying to understand them.

I understand their viewpoint, and I'm sad to say I once shared it. People can change.

[Louis VI the Fat]

How would said gays feel if I can marry my business partner for tax breaks

I think you'll find you can do just that. So long as you can show that your business partner is of the other sex.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I would blame the school problem on the overarching leftist educational goal of connecting more closely with children (as compared to most of the other school systems in the world), leaving no children to inferior educations (be they mentally handicapped, inner city, etc.), granting the students more power in the classroom and parents more say. That being said i would also blame programs such as the neo cons No Child left Behind, teachers being attacked often by the media and government as easy pandering, i would also blame the administrators of schools.Finally and most of all i blame parents.However, all this is not the forum for this discussion

When i get home today, i will make a new thread replying to this post. i am on my phone in class so i cant do it right now but the education system is one of my favorite topics to talk about.