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    Default Re: Everything You Think You Know about the Collapse of the Soviet Union is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by jirisys View Post
    Just look at cuba really. Very crappy for life, yet has all the best doctors (and baseball players) in all America. Also, least analphabets per capita of America, possibly one of the highest in the world.

    I think the problem with the soviet union was that it was not socialist anymore, it was facisto-communist. Big ol' Stalin got the bling, and the prollies only got the ****ing.

    Well really, I think the problem with all harcore socialist/communist countries is that they eventually wind up to be facist despotic dictatorships.

    Lenin made it ahead, only for everyone else to **** up. You know, except the Gulag, Cheka, anti-semitism, Red Terror, etc.

    At least he wasn't a tyrant.

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    Cuba's development was possible because of favourable trade agreements with the Soviet Union, who were propping up an ally in a strategicly important area.

    And Lenin certainly was a tyrant. Not in the same mass-murdering league as Stalin or Mao, but a tyrant nonetheless. Stuff like the red terror and the checka make for a pretty pretty huge "except". He's the one responsible for the centralized one-party state, wich is what enabled a dictator like Stalin in the first place.
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    Default Re: Everything You Think You Know about the Collapse of the Soviet Union is Wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    Cuba's development was possible because of favourable trade agreements with the Soviet Union, who were propping up an ally in a strategicly important area.

    And Lenin certainly was a tyrant. Not in the same mass-murdering league as Stalin or Mao, but a tyrant nonetheless. Stuff like the red terror and the checka make for a pretty pretty huge "except". He's the one responsible for the centralized one-party state, wich is what enabled a dictator like Stalin in the first place.
    Last part was a joke. Sarcastic.

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