Sweet Realistic Medieval Combat (Mount and Blade)

[Centurion1]

Try POP its much much better at holder your attention. Plus it is much much harder. I have nearly 200 top of the line troops in a single castle paying nearly 10k a week for them and I am terrified of the big bad world. There are 100 man armies out there and they have even bigger and badder troops......

[Samurai Waki]

PoP is fun, I've also been playing Blood and Steel, there is a pretty large departure from native in that class actually matters. The whole skill set has been changed, and balanced. Lots of interesting ways to gain money, prestige, and power as well.

[Centurion1]

blood and steel was a little bit too grand for me. and i abslutely hated the troop lines i like troop trees.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Just tried blood and steel. It's suffering from way too much inflation. Also, what's up with the megadeath-stacks of undead skeletons? I can handle the first 500, but around the 600 mark I'm out of troops and the archers get me.

[Samurai Waki]

Which setting are you playing on? Sounds like Mommy. I don't like the addition of the undead anyways. Neither am I a fan of the troop tree. The inflation is justified, it makes being a merchant a bit more exciting and lucrative than native.... price adjustment for equipment is probably necessary. Blood and Steel isn't supposed to play like native, Being a Ruler is a lot more central to the mod than going out and slave hunting.

[Centurion1]

No don't get me wrong I love the troops themselves absolutely adore them. But I hate the recruitment and training method. I wish it were a TREE rather than the lines.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

I'm on normal, with the condotierre(sp?) starting class. I don't see how I can even try to become a lord because I'm mobbed by undead every 2-3 days.

[Greyblades]

They have a forum,
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,185.0.html
You should get afew answers there.

[Centurion1]

get faster so you can run away nothing is making you fight them

[Hooahguy]

Ok so while I wait for my new computer Im going to read up on Warband stuff.

So question- whats the best background to be? At first I was a veteran warrior, but about 50 days in I havent really gotten anywhere, except for a party of 63 people and an alliance with the Rhodoks.

Im thinking that a noble is the best way to go.

[Samurai Waki]

Noble is the quickest route to really getting into the guts of the game. Other backgrounds can be fun, but more for RP purposes... in some mods though your background choices will fundamentally change the game.

[Hooahguy]

So whenever I go to pledge my sword to a king, he always refuses since I dont have distinction. Does this mean that if Im a noble kings will accept me?

[Samurai Waki]

Not right at first, you need to raise your prestige sufficiently enough, which is considerably easier as a Noble since you start out with an already high value... winning a few tournaments, and killing bandits is the quickest way.

[Hooahguy]

Oh, that makes sense. I was wondering why I was staying a mercenary as a veteran warrior instead of moving up the ranks.

[Centurion1]

you need 150 renown to be a vassal.

[johnhughthom]

A good way to bump up renown (and loot) quickly is going to Nord lands and soloing groups of Sea Raiders. You should be able to do small bands, up to 10 or so, and bigger when you get more skilled at the game.

[Centurion1]

aye i never ever buy ewquipment i first get decent gear from sea raiders and then i take what i get form lords.

sea raiders are laughably easy with a lance and a horse. or even a 2h axe.

btw who else hates thrust it sucks so bad.

[johnhughthom]

btw who else hates thrust it sucks so bad.

Yup, they could at least make it do more damage to make it less useless. Personally I always get a sabre or scimitar as soon as possible so I don't have to worry about doing it accidently.

[Centurion1]

axe of some sort.

[seireikhaan]

aye i never ever buy ewquipment i first get decent gear from sea raiders and then i take what i get form lords.

sea raiders are laughably easy with a lance and a horse. or even a 2h axe.

btw who else hates thrust it sucks so bad.

Depends. Lots of times, yes, it sorta flubs about and does nothing. But I've found that certain weapons, like claymores, can be very useful for thrusting with against heavy armor. Since thrusting weapons pretty much always get blunt or piercing, they can do quite good damage against armor if used correctly(eg not right in their face).

[Centurion1]

if you have an axe or even better a morningstar (most op weapon in the game) you cut through heavy armor like butter

[seireikhaan]

if you have an axe or even better a morningstar (most op weapon in the game) you cut through heavy armor like butter

Well, most axes do cutting damage, neh? Sure, some of them do just have a high enough raw damage that they do alright, but greatswords are just more versatile, imo, and usually have better reach to boot. As for morningstar, I personally dislike it. Really short range, which means whiffing on horseback a lot if you're not in ideal couching circumstances, and in sieges generally means exposing yourself to a lot of unnecessary swords. And incredibly slow. Not my thing.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

I prefer 2H swords myself, but axes I think do a bit more cutting damage (at the cost of range) and can usually break through blocks, right? Plus they'll do extra damage against shields...

[Hooahguy]

Personally I like having a shield since when you are charging ranged units it feels nice to have something in between you and those arrows/stones/whatever they throw.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Bastard swords are where it's at - you get the shield for facing ranged units but when it's time to mix it up with infantry you have a fast 2Her.

[rajpoot]

Thrusting is not useless. It might seem so perhaps because it is one of the trickiest attacks in the game, but correctly 'carried out' it causes massive damage against armoured foes..... You need to be moving forward, you need to make sure you aim correctly, and you also need to be sure that you hit from the optimum distance. So yeah, it is very hard to do everything correct, specially when being mobbed by enemies but not useless....specially not, if the enemy is running towards you.
Personally I carry a 2H sword (I think the best one is the 'Sword of War') when I'm on horseback....it has the longest reach for any non pole-arm weapon, and the horse grants the required power for a successful attack.
On foot, more specifically during sieges, I carry a Bastard Sword/Mornigstar (Again depending on the enemy type) + Shield combination with bow and arrows.

Axes do more cutting damage but the reach is comparatively very small...it's like a more one-on-one weapon. I never use them.

[Hooahguy]

Im thinking the best way to make cash is early in the game go to a region that you dont want to be a vassal of, get close enough to the king to have him ask you to collect taxes, and when you get all the taxes, run away, and dont come back unless you have a sizable force.
Rinse and repeat.

[Centurion1]

money is mad eoff of trade route, tournaments, and raiding villages.

if you slaughter the cattle as well a single village will net you about 15k. tournaments around 20k and trade routes depends on the good but a solid say iron round is about 6k.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Thrusting is not useless. It might seem so perhaps because it is one of the trickiest attacks in the game, but correctly 'carried out' it causes massive damage against armoured foes..... You need to be moving forward, you need to make sure you aim correctly, and you also need to be sure that you hit from the optimum distance. So yeah, it is very hard to do everything correct,

The first time I read this, I took it the way it was meant to be taken. Now, however, i thought of it in a sexual light. Hilarity will ensue.

[Hooahguy]

money is mad eoff of trade route, tournaments, and raiding villages.

if you slaughter the cattle as well a single village will net you about 15k. tournaments around 20k and trade routes depends on the good but a solid say iron round is about 6k.

Really? When I raided villages I made at most like 2k. Though I didnt slaughter the cows.
And I like my method better, doesnt anger people as much.