Sweet Realistic Medieval Combat (Mount and Blade)

[Centurion1]

i dont know dont play multiplayer it doesnt appeal to me.

but vikingr has a large following and decapitations.

[miotas]

Has anyone here played the cRPG mod? I saw a video for it on youtube and it looks really good. i like the idea of a persistent character.

I tried it for about a week or so, it's a good mod, but very level grindy in nature and I couldn't be bothered trying to get to a decent level.

[Hooahguy]

I keep thinking this game has a horrible name. Whenever I talk about this game to friends I keep saying it as "Mountain Blade."

[Prussian to the Iron]

I keep thinking this game has a horrible name. Whenever I talk about this game to friends I keep saying it as "Mountain Blade."

Thank god I'm not the only one. I don't think I say it as Mountain Blade, but thats what everyone thinks I'm saying and I have to slow down so they can hear it correctly.

[miotas]

Clearly a common mistake, there's a steam achievement called "Mountain Blade".

I just say Warband now.

[Hooahguy]

Thank god I'm not the only one. I don't think I say it as Mountain Blade, but thats what everyone thinks I'm saying and I have to slow down so they can hear it correctly.

Same. Its so annoying, I just call it "Warband," as Miotas does.

[johnhughthom]

Play as the Rhodoks, then you'll be a true "Mountain Blade".

[Drunk Clown]

I got myself a fine warband today .. SCORE!

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Play as the Rhodoks, then you'll be a true "Mountain Blade".

Too bad their troops are awful on any map that isn't 100% vertical mountains. :(

[Greyblades]

...You know I kinda like that name, If I ever write a book I'm calling it "The Mountain Blade".

[Prussian to the Iron]

Too bad their troops are awful on any map that isn't 100% vertical mountains. :(

I don't ever play with the Rhodoks, but their higher-tier troops can cut through cavalry like butter, and the crossbowmen inflict some major damage against infantry

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Swadian sharpshooters can go toe-to-toe with the Rhodok shooters, and you need a hell of a terrain advantage to resist a swarm of Khergits.

[Samurai Waki]

Rhodoks are much nastier in Floris Modpack-- Awesome, if not expensive Heavy Infantry.

[Drunk Clown]

I don't get it, I'm running around all day without any goal.

I got a force of about 45 men now, which cos 800 denars per ...week? (dunno if it's week). So my purse is getting drained. Without a viable income my troops won't last long.

I don't have enough renown to become a vassal of the khanate so I think I have to defeat bandits etc. But the problem is those steppe bandits outpace me :/

And the search for those damn nobles is a pain in the butt.

The only cool thing I did is instigate a war..

[rajpoot]

Since you're talking about the Khanate I'm assuming you're trying to chase Steppe Bandits.
Instead go North and chase Sea Raiders, the larger parties.
And go to a town and buy whatever is available in large quantities at low prices. Then sell it later.

And if you started a war then chances are that you can be hired as a mercenary, that's one step below becoming a lord, the pay stinks, but atleast you'll be able to attack faction parties legally.

Edit:
What kind of troops do you have?

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Yeah, spend some time as a merchant, buying low and selling high. Also, complete missions for towns (the pay is usually crappy but the XP rewards are good).

[Drunk Clown]

Yes, I am chasing the Steppe Bandits.

How do I know when it's at a low price? I don't know the standard value of the items.

I instigated a war by doing a task for a noble. The peace was no good for him, he wanted war with the Rhodoks. He suggested I make an assault by raiding villages (unable to for some reason) and raiding caravans (not strong enough). Since neither of that was an option I murdered some peasants which also did the trick.

Ahem, my troops:
6 Khergit Skirmishers
14 Khergit Horseman
3 Khergit Tribesman
1 Mercenary Horsemen
1 Sarranid Skirmishers
2 Sarranid Veteran Footmen
3 Slave Drivers
2 Khergit Veteran Horse Archers
7 Khergit Lancers
1 Slave Hunter
3 Horse Archers

All non Khergit troops are freed prisoners of bandits.

Also I just won 4500 denars by winning a tournament.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Yes, I am chasing the Steppe Bandits.

How do I know when it's at a low price? I don't know the standard value of the items.

I instigated a war by doing a task for a noble. The peace was no good for him, he wanted war with the Rhodoks. He suggested I make an assault by raiding villages (unable to for some reason) and raiding caravans (not strong enough). Since neither of that was an option I murdered some peasants which also did the trick.

Ahem, my troops:
6 Khergit Skirmishers
14 Khergit Horseman
3 Khergit Tribesman
1 Mercenary Horsemen
1 Sarranid Skirmishers
2 Sarranid Veteran Footmen
3 Slave Drivers
2 Khergit Veteran Horse Archers
7 Khergit Lancers
1 Slave Hunter
3 Horse Archers

All non Khergit troops are freed prisoners of bandits.

Also I just won 4500 denars by winning a tournament.

Quite a mixed bag you have there :P

Regarding trade routes, if you look online you should be able to find some fairly simple ones. I can't remember any exact cities, but I know that there's a Sarranid city that sells Iron extremely low priced, and IIRC a Nord one that buys it very high. Or the other way around. Also there's a Khergit city that sells velvet really low, and you can sell that just about anywhere for at least 5-600 denars profit per velvet piece.


What I would recommend for you right now regarding troops is to get rid of all non-cavalry guys (basically get rid of the Sarranids), and focus on cavalry only for a while. I say this because you are going up against Rhodoks, and flanking them with cavalry from 2 sides is devastating for them. You move far faster on the campaign map as well with only cavalry. Once you get a castle however, fill it with non-Khergit infantry: they are the worst in the game. Nords and Rhodoks are probably the best castle defenders IMO; Rhodoks have high-damage crossbowmen and long pointy sticks to keep people at bay, and Nords have giant freakin axes that tear through the attackers (and defenders if you so choose).

[rajpoot]

You'll know that an item is cheap when you see a lot of it. As in more than 5-6 units with the trader. And AFAIK the prices aren't constant. The change (I think) randomly.

Like PI says get rid of all non cavalry. That ought to speed your party up quite a lot and allow you to catch up to Steppe Bandits.
Otherwise, you should go looking for other enemies. Considering that most of your party are light horsemen, I'll retract what I suggested before. Don't go after Sea Raiders, because they can quickly mash up units with weak armour and lesser health. Try going after the Tundra/Taiga Bandits, or the Desert Bandits instead. Atleast until you can amass some heavy cavalry or well heavy infantry.

And also I won't suggest that you go fight Rhodoks solo either, just as yet. Because again, cavalry can get mobbed by footmen quite easily, and light cavalry and going to be cut down quickly. Start recruiting Swadians or Vegeirs. That way once you join the Khergits, you'll still have some heavier cavalry.

[Centurion1]

eh im ocd with this stuff so your troops list is giving me ulcers. With the khergits is all about small army sizes but preservation of that core go about 70% horse archers and 30% a heavy core of lancer

set off the HA to disrupt the enemy formation.

All the while lead your heavy lancers to the rear of the enemy formation. Then proceed to charcge and rape them. If your lancers get too scattered bring them up together.

AVOID SIEGES

[Drunk Clown]

LOL

I never use commands, I win anyway

Oh how things have changed.

The Rhodoks didn't start a war after I provoked them instead the Veagirs started a war. I got a whole new army now; about 30 units.
So I went to the Nords and went after some Sea Raiders; that didn't went well. So I destroyed some wood bandits (or something like that). After one noble particularly liked me I got a contract as a mercenary.
Now the real thing started.
I was asked to join a campaign, got a scouting mission and successfully completed it. Then I saw that they were sieging a veagir castle so I jumped in and got raped. Twice.
Cos after I was defeated another veagir army confronted me and I died but my forces one the battle (and I get praised by my Khanate nobles for defeating that veagir dude ).

I did win, but had only 15 troops remaining so I went back to Tulga and that other town, did some stuff for nobles.
Meanwhile the truce between the Khanate and the Sultanate ended and we were at war again. I captured one of their nobles, but have no idea what to do with it (I'd rather kill it but I see no kill option ). Veagirs signed a truce or something (idk fact is war is over).
Bored; so I traveled to the sultanate killing some desert bandits freeing plus hiring some slavehunters (are they good? Cos my 1 Slavemaster is still around).

Raided a village and have tons of tools, honey, pelts, cloth etc. Gotta sell them but does it matter where?

Oh and last but not least: I "hired" some characters a whiny blondie and a tough nomad. Blondie always dies, she my manager of stuff, well you know what wimminz do best. I don't understand why she fights. She also didn't approve me raiding villages.

Oh and another thing what skills are the best? I have lots O' skill points unused, not knowing where to use them. Intelligence is important but damnit! I want to be strong!

P.S. I die alot; it's a result of me bumping in to other horses and getting stuck. Got a skill of 160 in archery YAY! it's my only way of killing

[rajpoot]

OK, first, the noble you captured, hang on to him. Eventually he will be ransomed and you'll get a nice sum.
Next, the slave hunters are good as cavalry if upgraded fully, else, they're rather weak.
Sell the looted items where ever you think they'll net you the highest profit. You'll need to search around a bit for that, but don't waste time on it.
The hired characters are heroes/companions. You can equip them and level them up just like your own character. However they have their own personalities and can get into conflict with each other (and things you do, like raiding villages) and end up leaving your party with everything you gave them. You can hire them back later again, but best to try and keep them happy. You can check on them by talking with them from time to time.
You seem to lack hitpoints, so invest in strength and Ironflesh.
I've never played a purely archery based character so I don't know how successful that is (I doubt it'll work). For starters get some one handed weapon and a decent shield, so that you can survive melee.

Edit:
And get some non-Khergit troops! Get some heavy troops! If you don't use commands then using light cavalry is as good as throwing them away. And if most of your troops are archers then hold them back in sieges while your allies go ahead, you have to use commands.

[Drunk Clown]

OK, first, the noble you captured, hang on to him. Eventually he will be ransomed and you'll get a nice sum.
Next, the slave hunters are good as cavalry if upgraded fully, else, they're rather weak.
Sell the looted items where ever you think they'll net you the highest profit. You'll need to search around a bit for that, but don't waste time on it.
The hired characters are heroes/companions. You can equip them and level them up just like your own character. However they have their own personalities and can get into conflict with each other (and things you do, like raiding villages) and end up leaving your party with everything you gave them. You can hire them back later again, but best to try and keep them happy. You can check on them by talking with them from time to time.
You seem to lack hitpoints, so invest in strength and Ironflesh.
I've never played a purely archery based character so I don't know how successful that is (I doubt it'll work). For starters get some one handed weapon and a decent shield, so that you can survive melee.

Edit:
And get some non-Khergit troops! Get some heavy troops! If you don't use commands then using light cavalry is as good as throwing them away. And if most of your troops are archers then hold them back in sieges while your allies go ahead, you have to use commands.

First, for the slave hunters, I will see if they survive, if not so be it.
Okey will do, ironflesh it is, got 51 hp.

Archery is by far the easiest way of killing at least for me; I always miss with my lance or sword from horseback or bump into something and stop (then I get stuck and die). First I had a nomad saber, but since I never made a kill with it I sold it. Now have a light lance, a studded leather shield and a longbow with barbed arrows. My horse is a heavy steppe horse, dunno if that's any good.

For the heavy troops.. I got 2 elite veagir infantry (highest)

The order system is so annoying, my horses rush to the enemy and I'm all like shit which buttons to press. I have no idea how to sandwich enemy troops or let death come from all sides. The most tactical thing I did was when I assisted a noble in battle. I said: "Troops follow me!" then I went to the rear of the enemy army and said: "CHAAAAAAAAARGE!!.

I wish I could show you my new army with screenshot, but my damn bro is occupying my damn PC.

[Hooahguy]

Ok someone explain to me why the Bastard Sword is so loved. Im looking at vids on youtube of it and it doesnt look that good.

Also, what sword is this?

[Centurion1]

Ok someone explain to me why the Bastard Sword is so loved. Im looking at vids on youtube of it and it doesnt look that good.

Also, what sword is this?

Ah this my cup of tea for my fabulous memory.

That is a Military two handed cleaver. Very powerful weapon but i wouldnt keep it past mid game. Rhodok Sergeants often wield them along with sledge hammers and voulges as their two handed option.

The bastard sword is loved because it fulfills a valuable niche role. It is a one handed/two handed. It excellently serves as a very powerful one handed weapon all while if your shield is destroyed (which happens often) serves as a superb two hander and very fast as a two hander. Not to mention their is a lesser negative bonus to using it on horseback two handed.


In other news I have fulfilled my goal of beating a full POP campaign in under 500 days. Not quite up to my record of beating a Warband map in under a year.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

When you start the campaign, do you use all the money you have to recruit troops or are you going to do some solo missions first. I tried doing solo missions but failed.

[johnhughthom]

My usual starting strategy is to go around the map getting the companions I want, when I have all nine head to Nord lands to beat up Sea Raiders for a while. I rarely do missions, I never trade, loot and enterprises more than give me enough money, I build a new one every time I get 10000. I generally don't bother hiring more men until I'm in a faction and my companions training skill means they rank up quickly without fighting. This is native of course.

[Hooahguy]

When you start the campaign, do you use all the money you have to recruit troops or are you going to do some solo missions first. I tried doing solo missions but failed.

I try to get at least 5-7 men under my command before I start doing missions.
I found that having fewer than that makes raiders and robbers pounce on you. Having at least 5 gives you a fighting chance.

[Drunk Clown]

I got captured by bandits, now I can start over again YAY!

I got one village now, Kundun I believe. I decided not to recruit anymore horsearchers, they suck.\

[edit]
Nevermind,

I decided to start a new campaign. I got captured a lot by bandits after my army got decimated. All the villages were looted so I couldn't recruit.


Had to fight 80 steppe bandits, with my few Nords and Swadians.

Since I start a new game, I humbly ask of you veterans, which is the best faction to pick as novice and which skills plus weapons.

[Centurion1]

swadia. knights are expensive but highly overpriced