Midgardsaga III [Concluded]

[Renata]

I have a good feeling about classical_hero. I'd wager my head we should not lynch him.

No opinion on Tratorix. I don't find him scummy but I'm not going to lift a finger to save him. Though it is nice to see him again. Hi Tratorix!

I think we could do well with pressuring other people.

Well my point was that unless I've lost track of the deadline AGAIN (which is quite possible these days), there's only about a half hour to go, and you voting b-ray in that situation is kind of pointless as far as pressure goes. (Nor does it accomplish anything in terms of keeping CH's head out of the noose.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why don't we all just advertise that C_H is probably Thor. Gosh, if it wasn't clear from the writeup, he's all but admitted he's a god in-thread.



Where is the subtlety anymore. Remember back in the day we could just be like "Nah, don't think we should lynch him" and people would give you the benefit of the doubt for like a round or two? Instead we have to have big glowing neon signs that say HEY MURDER THIS PERSON.

[Romanic]

Meh. Not a clever strategy if you're good, either, unless you happen to be bulletproof. It's all WIFOM.

We'll see how long you survive, and that will determine when we lynch you. Make yourself useful in the meantime with your god-powers or something.

Also- if MRD was level 4, that means he was powerful for a townie. I'd say you killed a king or a prince or something.

Vote: Tratorix

I thought you were gonna fight me. Change your mind?

How do you figure that MRD was a king for having Holmgang = 4?

Looking at the previous games, kings had Holmgang values of 7 and 8, and since Sigurd mentioned a similar setup, I'm tempted to believe that MRD was not a King.

Which is also why I don't like lynching classical_hero - He's got HG = 8, which is fit for a King, according to the previous game (Loki also had 8, against other gods or Jotun, which would imply MRD was one of these. Clearly he wasn't, with a score of 4).

So I can't push for a CH lynch yet, although I would like to hear a claim from here, at this point.

vote: Tratorix - to protect a possible king. The case against him doesn't really appeal to me, but what can you do.

[Romanic]

CH is Thor? Hmm... Wouldn't Thor appear to have more Holmgang if he was to fight against a weak human like MRD probably was? (given is low score of 4).

[Tratorix]

No opinion on Tratorix. I don't find him scummy but I'm not going to lift a finger to save him. Though it is nice to see him again. Hi Tratorix!

Hi PizzaGuy!

There's nothing else I can really say at this point. The only one close to me in votes is classical hero and he's claimed a powertown role, which I cannot. Here's my role pm, just for posterity.

Human – Tratorix

Truls Magnesson

You are a War Veteran and in the service of the king of Rogaland. You are basically a townie with high Holmgang stats


Holmgang ability : 3 (WarVeteran) = 3

Good Luck!!!

I really don't like the fact that Renata's jumped on two bandwagons in two rounds. I also think classical hero might as well just reveal at this point, as it doesn't really hurt him since he's practically already done so. He can keep Holmgang score and abilitys secret if he wants, but I'd like to see the rest of his role pm.

[woad&fangs]

Hey, if there is already a big neon sign we may as well add some fireworks as well. Maybe we can get the oldspice guy as well.

Why don't we all just advertise that C_H is probably Thor. Gosh, if it wasn't clear from the writeup, he's all but admitted he's a god in-thread.



Where is the subtlety anymore. Remember back in the day we could just be like "Nah, don't think we should lynch him" and people would give you the benefit of the doubt for like a round or two? Instead we have to have big glowing neon signs that say HEY MURDER THIS PERSON.

[Renata]

If I understand it right, CH had AT LEAST 8; he never dropped below three dice. So 8 is his minimum; max could be anything.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Renata 1 (Reenk, )
classical_hero 5 (autolycus,Tratorix, Diamondeye,Khaan, B_Ray
Khazaar 1 (GH)
GH 1 (Khazaar)
Mr. Stuka 1 (TC)
B_Ray 1 (ATPG)
Tratorix 7 (Believer, Chaotix, Kagemusha, Renata, Warman, DIY, Woad)
Tincow 1 (classical_hero)

Based on Kage's previous tally.

I thought the tally was closer.

Between Renata, myself, Tratorix, anyone listening, and possibly Kage if I can wake him up, we could probably pile a bunch of votes on someone.

I'm not sure it is worth the risk to C_H. Are you ready to take one for the team, Tratorix?

[Romanic]

If I understand it right, CH had AT LEAST 8; he never dropped below three dice. So 8 is his minimum; max could be anything.

Ah, I thought it was said that he had exactly 8. It changes my perspective then, as he could be a King, power role or Jotun.

*scratches head*

unvote: Tratorix

[Tratorix]

Based on Kage's previous tally.

I thought the tally was closer.

Between Renata, myself, Tratorix, anyone listening, and possibly Kage if I can wake him up, we could probably pile a bunch of votes on someone.

I'm not sure it is worth the risk to C_H. Are you ready to take one for the team, Tratorix?

We could lynch Mr. Stuka. He seemed a bit scummy to me last round and hasn't shown up this time. I'll Unvote: Classical Hero for now and if anyone wants to help me save my skin, I'll go along with it. If not, well, it's not the first time I've been bandwagoned and it probably won't be the last.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nominations for third alternative:

B_Ray, Khaan (Askthepizzaguy)

You guys?

Edit:

Mr. Stuka (Tratorix)

[woad&fangs]

The suggested options seem fine. I'd be willing to bandwagon any of those three.

[Tratorix]

Vote: Mr. Stuka is my choice.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Mr. Stuka is my choice.

I have no objection, but consensus is a tricky thing. We're working it out via PM and IM due to time constraints.

For the record I'll vote anyone but c_h. I just prefer to have reasons too.

[Tratorix]

I'll add a bit more reasoning here, cause I don't want to edit a vote post. When I challenged Mr. Stuka last day phase( when challenges weren't being accepted) he claimed to be a champion almost immediately and then did everything possible to try and fade into the background. He hasn't even lodged a vote in this day phase. Seems like exactly what I tried to do in my first couple games as mafia, try to draw as little attention as possible while still technically remaining active.

Edit: I'm not sold on Bray or khaan, but if it comes down to them or me, I believe you can count on my support.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I fear that a lot of people have good reasons to avoid the spotlight in this game. It's tough to suggest that means scum. I want more than just that personally.

[Romanic]

vote: B_Ray

Based on his last vote. Can't do better than this, gotta run to work. :(

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sorry; Romanic is leaving like immediately and time pressure is killing me. The only one I could get consensus on was B_Ray.

Sorry B_Ray. I really hope you're scum.

[Romanic]

Er, vote: B_Ray

[Tratorix]

Well, you're not going to find it. It's round 2, any case against anyone is pretty much just gut feelings. The case against people so far, for anyone interested.

Classical Hero: High Holmgang stat.

Tratorix: Voted for Classical Hero.

Mr. Stuka: See above.

B Ray: ATPG Hunch.

Khaan: ATPG Hunch.

[Believer]

Unvote; Tratorix
Vote: B_Ray

[Tratorix]

I hate that my 1500 post has to go this way, but Unvote, Vote: B Ray. Sorry dude, don't know if you're scum but I trust you less than myself.

[woad&fangs]

unvote: tratorix, vote: B_Ray
Bandwagon!

By the way, I want to Homgang some lurkers. Anyone have any suggestions?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well if the B_Ray lynch is bad, that will be my fault since I pressed for it.

This post gives me pause as a potential reason not to vote B_Ray, but... he was under pressure at the time and even a scum could say that.

I think there may be enough support to go with Stuka if people are still active and discussing near the deadline. I can move off of B_Ray if you need me to.

[Tratorix]

You can if you want, but in 20 minutes my votes locked in as I'm going out to eat. If you decide to try it, it better be before then. And Romanic's vote is already locked.

[woad&fangs]

Trat, me, atpg, renata, tincow
If Renata is on board I would prefer stuka over B_Ray as well.

[Askthepizzaguy]

B_Ray 5 (ATPG, romanic, Believer Tratorix, Woad
Tratorix 5 (, Chaotix, Kagemusha, Renata, Warman, DIY, )
classical_hero 4 (autolycus,, Diamondeye, Khaan, B_Ray
Renata 1 (Reenk)
Khazaar 1 (GH)
GH 1 (Khazaar)
Mr. Stuka 1 (TC)
Tincow 1 (classical_hero)

Not checked, hasty tally.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes, there are enough currently active people to move to Mr. Stuka, sparing c_h, B_Ray, and Trat_orix

I will do it if that's the call. B_Ray still needs to be pressured about his soft claim IMO.

[woad&fangs]

unvote: B_Ray; Vote: Mr. Stuka

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll be a team player. Fingers crossed.

Unvote, vote: Mr. Stuka

I do have to run to work now though.