Who was innocent

[Kralizec]

Oh the irony.

It would have been ironic if the perpetrator had been an islamic terrorist. Instead it was a white guy who believes that all leftists are anti-semites, Al-Quada sympathizers and Gutmenschen. Hate was certainly planted, but not by these youths. Your post is a case in point.

[Fragony]

It would have been ironic if the perpetrator had been an islamic terrorist. Instead it was a white guy who believes that all leftists are anti-semites, Al-Quada sympathizers and Gutmenschen. Hate was certainly planted, but not by these youths. Your post is a case in point.

If you absolutely adore people who feel the end justifies the means and die by the hands of someone who thinks likewise, that's ironic imho .

And from what I heard from the speech the PM gave ah well, it certainly wasn't about Norway's social-democracy and the amount of ribbons and flyers

[HoreTore]

You heard nothing from the PM, as he was supposed to speak on saturday. Needless to say, he didn't get a chance to do so.

[Fragony]

You heard nothing from the PM, as he was supposed to speak on saturday. Needless to say, he didn't get a chance to do so.

The ex-PM then. What difference does it make a major labour figure no. What does the middle-eastern conflict got to do with Norway? And ribbons? Norway has creepy elements imho

[Kralizec]

Okay. So according to you, Norway's labour party endorses (or absolutely adores, whatever) terrorism against Israeli citizens, and because of that, it's ironic that a youth camp became a target of terrorism? Sources please, because I have a feeling that the premise is blatantly false.

[Fragony]

Okay. So according to you, Norway's labour party endorses (or absolutely adores, whatever) terrorism against Israeli citizens, and because of that, it's ironic that a youth camp became a target of terrorism? Sources please, because I have a feeling that the premise is blatantly false.

They even directly ban cooperation with Israeli professors

[Kralizec]

Who did? The universities themselves, or the labour government?
All I can find with google is that Dershowitz was refused a lecture (Adrian referred to this earlier; he's not an Israeli citizen though) and a failed attempt at Trondheim's university to institute an academic boycot, the latter which was unanimously rejected.

EDIT: this was obviously in response to Frag.

[HoreTore]

Okay. So according to you, Norway's labour party endorses (or absolutely adores, whatever) terrorism against Israeli citizens, and because of that, it's ironic that a youth camp became a target of terrorism? Sources please, because I have a feeling that the premise is blatantly false.

It is indeed an utter lie.

First of all, it was Gahr Støre, the foreign minister, who spoke on Thursday, the day of the mid-east debate. He repeated the mantra he has repeated since he assumed office:

Dialogue, dialogue, dialogue.

I don't think I have ever heard the man utter another word. How that can be interpreted as hate, however, is quite frankly beyond me.

As for Derschowitz being "denied" to speak at universities, the head of the unis in question have addressed that well enough. I'll give you the short version: he approached the legal faculty administration and asked if he could hold a lecture on Israel. The administration replied that they wanted a lecture on law, not Israel, seeing as how he is a professor of law and it being a legal faculty. He declined that, and the administration told him to contact the student organization if he wanted to hold a lecture that is strictly outside the curriculum. I can't remember atm if he did so, however.

Ah yes, what Jew-hating madness!!

[Fragony]

'First of all, it was Gahr Støre, the foreign minister, who spoke on Thursday, the day of the mid-east debate. He repeated the mantra he has repeated since he assumed office:Dialogue, dialogue, dialoguee'

Which has what to do with Norway's social democracy exactly?