Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

[God Emperor]

although futile it is to go over the points that I have not responded to (though I thought I had) I might still give it another shot.

Question A, which concerns, as to how I survived, I already said in the post, that was posted just before dawn of the second phase, I have no clue. I am sorry if you want a better answer; I know nothing more about the 'why' I survived, than any of you do.

Question B. Why did I say that I was uncertain if a role reveal was a good idea, If I did not even have a role: again I will direct you to the post that was posted prior to day phase 2. It is a simple case of cost/benefit. Given that I was doomed to be lynched, since I survived the night attack, the best I could do was to make it as appealing for the mafia to kill me, as possible, rather than having to waste a day phase in kangaroo court. It should all be in my previous posts, if you really care :p (!)


@ Captain blackadder: You really suspect a serial killer now ? I thought that the common accepted truth was that it was a third party attacking me, given the ' I don't care if you are good or evil ' . But you believe that is the mafia that attacked me ?

[TheLastDays]

At first I thought you were a clueless townie, but now you are pretty much a terrible liar...
The feeling is like you can't handle your role, without getting irrational...

Handle what role?

This won't do, Arjos. If you accuse me of lying you'll have to point to the instances where I have actually lied, which should be interesting because I haven't.

Honestly my thoughts about you change with every post you make you keep looking town/scum/town/scum/town/scum and I'm glad you are already lynched and we don't have to decide on what to do with you later on.

[SoulBlade]

vote: fluffy
Seems too fluffy as already stated

[johnhughthom]

Vote: God Emperor

Don't forget to insert some stuff here in an effort to pretend I thought long and hard about the vote before posting.

[classical_hero]

vote:God Emperor

[robbiecon]

You guys really want God Emperor's head on a plate, don't you?

Vote: Askthepizzaguy, because that's where true evil lies.... probably.

[Visor]

Oh, and please don't kill Robbiecon. He's been killed off early in a lot of games recently. Thanks scumbags.

[Andres]

Unvote ; Vote : robbiecon

[Askthepizzaguy]

You guys really want God Emperor's head on a plate, don't you?

Vote: Askthepizzaguy, because that's where true evil lies.... probably.

I'm very evil and I like it.

[Renata]

I am sorry to say so, but this is one big wasted phase =/

Oh, I see.

[TinCow]

Question B. Why did I say that I was uncertain if a role reveal was a good idea, If I did not even have a role: again I will direct you to the post that was posted prior to day phase 2. It is a simple case of cost/benefit. Given that I was doomed to be lynched, since I survived the night attack, the best I could do was to make it as appealing for the mafia to kill me, as possible, rather than having to waste a day phase in kangaroo court. It should all be in my previous posts, if you really care :p (!)

Well, if you are innocent, which I doubt, I hope you realize that doing this is exactly what got you lynched. If you are townie and have nothing to hide, you should not lie about your role and change your story. Getting caught in a lie is a guaranteed lynch, and you really didn't give the town much choice other than to vote for you.

Plus, you clearly did not think this strategy through. Why would the mafia immediately attack you at night when it looks to everyone like you're immune to night kills?

[God Emperor]

Well, if you are innocent, which I doubt, I hope you realize that doing this is exactly what got you lynched. If you are townie and have nothing to hide, you should not lie about your role and change your story. Getting caught in a lie is a guaranteed lynch, and you really didn't give the town much choice other than to vote for you.

Plus, you clearly did not think this strategy through. Why would the mafia immediately attack you at night when it looks to everyone like you're immune to night kills?

Really? Just yesterday you seemed to agree with my line of thought, that since I survived an attack, I MUST be lynched no matter what I say. Oh well. And though you claim I clearly did not think it through, then let is just return to where you, among others (myself inlcuded) would expect me to be lynched no matter what. Given that this is what I can look forward to then there are two outcomes; either death by lynch, or Death by night kill.. I pick to 'enhance' the chance to get night killed, as that is really the only sensible choice. I can only agree that to lie is a bad thing for a townie to do, but it would be hard to claim that this case in anything standard. The only reason that I was not lynched yesterday, was because of the dim chance that I might have been a power role.
.. I suppose I reply to such a statement because I take it a bit personal .

anyway I am done defending myself. I might still follow the game though, once I am dead :)

[TinCow]

Really? Just yesterday you seemed to agree with my line of thought, that since I survived an attack, I MUST be lynched no matter what I say. Oh well. And though you claim I clearly did not think it through, then let is just return to where you, among others (myself inlcuded) would expect me to be lynched no matter what. Given that this is what I can look forward to then there are two outcomes; either death by lynch, or Death by night kill.. I pick to 'enhance' the chance to get night killed, as that is really the only sensible choice. I can only agree that to lie is a bad thing for a townie to do, but it would hard to claim that this case in anything standard. The only reason that I was not lynched yesterday, was because of the dim chance that I might have been a power role.
.. I suppose I reply to such a statement because I take it a bit personal .

anyway I am done defending myself. I might still follow the game though, once I am dead :)

The point is that, if you are a townie, you succeeded in making things even more distracting for the town. By fighting the lynch with a lie, you were inevitably going to make yourself lynch bait in future rounds. If you were resigned to death and only wanted to minimize the distraction to the town, you should have let yourself get lynched yesterday.

[TheLastDays]

The point is that, if you are a townie, you succeeded in making things even more distracting for the town. By fighting the lynch with a lie, you were inevitably going to make yourself lynch bait in future rounds. If you were resigned to death and only wanted to minimize the distraction to the town, you should have let yourself get lynched yesterday.

Well, to be fair, it was me who started the "rescue mission" to GE which might have been a mistake in retrospect but at the point I just thought there were better targets on D1 than a potential power role.

[Zack]

@ Captain blackadder: You really suspect a serial killer now ? I thought that the common accepted truth was that it was a third party attacking me, given the ' I don't care if you are good or evil ' . But you believe that is the mafia that attacked me ?

One would assume that there is more than one third-party player.

[Riedquat]

Vote: God Emperor

FoS: SoulBlade for not bolding his vote!

[thefluffyone93]

vote: fluffy
Seems too fluffy as already stated

[Romanic]

14 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, GH, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)
3 woad&fangs (dcmort, Believer, woad&fangs)
3 White_Eyes (Yaropolk, Diamondeye, Reenk)
3 Fluffy (God Emperor**, Romanic, Double A)
2 Chaotix (White_Eyes, Seon)
2 Romanic (Fluffy, autolycus)
1 Earthling (TLD)
1 Ironside (ATPG)
1 Believer (Chaotix)
1 autolycus (GH)
1 TheLastDays (Diamondeye)
1 ATPG (robbiecon)
1 robbiecon (Andres)
---
1 not voting (SoulBlade**)

** Notes:
#413 - unvote; vote: DE by God Emperor is invalid (some bold missing)
#423 - vote: Fluffy by God Emperor is invalid (no bold)

[Yaropolk]

About revealing to me - townie networks are dangerous - think twice if you're not better off remaining the shadows protector o' mine.

Night is almost upon us, so this deserves to be posted publicly. Despite the warning I put up above, some people contacted me. I don't really think it's a wise move but as it stands I reluctantly ended up at the center of a small network. Nobody knows who anyone else is, and I'd like to keep it that way. If you're a neutral role willing to work with town or a townie role who believes that I am innocent and want to contribute without knowing identity of the others then drop me a line. I will not be sharing your identity with anyone either.

[Romanic]

We'll see what we'll see about God Emperor, unless the lynch won't reveal his alignment.

Can we petition the host for a clear death reveal?

/signed

[thefluffyone93]

14 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, GH, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)

Omega Bandwagon ACTIVATE!

[White_eyes:D]

I think the bandwagon on GE has only been surpassed in Capo 3.

Edit:Of course that had 2x the players but whatever.

[Riedquat]

14 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, GH, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)
3 woad&fangs (dcmort, Believer, woad&fangs)
3 White_Eyes (Yaropolk, Diamondeye, Reenk)
3 Fluffy (God Emperor**, Romanic, Double A)
2 Chaotix (White_Eyes, Seon)
2 Romanic (Fluffy, autolycus)
1 Earthling (TLD)
1 Ironside (ATPG)
1 Believer (Chaotix)
1 autolycus (GH)
1 TheLastDays (Diamondeye)
1 ATPG (robbiecon)
1 robbiecon (Andres)
---
1 not voting (SoulBlade**)

** Notes:
#413 - unvote; vote: DE by God Emperor is invalid (some bold missing)
#423 - vote: Fluffy by God Emperor is invalid (no bold)

Errrr.... not that it will change anything...

[SoulBlade]

Oh, I've been too busy these days, I've even forgot how to vote!

vote: fluffly

[Romanic]

Revised tally, thanks Riedquat.

13 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)
4 Fluffy (God Emperor**, Romanic, Double A, SoulBlade)
3 woad&fangs (dcmort, Believer, woad&fangs)
2 White_Eyes (Yaropolk, Reenk)
2 Chaotix (White_Eyes, Seon)
2 Romanic (Fluffy, autolycus)
1 Earthling (TLD)
1 Ironside (ATPG)
1 Believer (Chaotix)
1 autolycus (GH)
1 TheLastDays (Diamondeye)
1 ATPG (robbiecon)
1 robbiecon (Andres)
---
2 not voting (choxorn, Secura)

** Notes:
#413 - unvote; vote: DE by God Emperor is invalid (some bold missing)

[seireikhaan]

Round over. If you want, I'll take early orders.

[Diamondeye]

Romanic, I am pretty sure GE was not trying to move his vote. the "unvote, vote" are unbolded on purpose as they are a noun in context... They refer to my unvoting of GE and vote for someone else (TLD).

That's a rather unexpected Unovte; vote , DE ! What happened to the 'let's not waste the phase' ? . Could you please just tell a bit about what you are thinking, when unvoting me? :)

This I suppose goes for many who does not vote me but goes for the lurkers. There can be no doubt that all seem perfectly satisfied with me being lynched.. That ofc includes the mafia ^^ But just to vote someone else to avoid a run away bandwagon, but without questioning anybody ? That is not really leading anywhere as far as I can see.
I am sorry to say so, but this is one big wasted phase =/

I was pretty sure you were going to be lynched and TLD struck me as scummy for the same reasons others (TC I believe) mentioned.

although futile it is to go over the points that I have not responded to (though I thought I had) I might still give it another shot.

Question A, which concerns, as to how I survived, I already said in the post, that was posted just before dawn of the second phase, I have no clue. I am sorry if you want a better answer; I know nothing more about the 'why' I survived, than any of you do.

Question B. Why did I say that I was uncertain if a role reveal was a good idea, If I did not even have a role: again I will direct you to the post that was posted prior to day phase 2. It is a simple case of cost/benefit. Given that I was doomed to be lynched, since I survived the night attack, the best I could do was to make it as appealing for the mafia to kill me, as possible, rather than having to waste a day phase in kangaroo court. It should all be in my previous posts, if you really care :p (!)


@ Captain blackadder: You really suspect a serial killer now ? I thought that the common accepted truth was that it was a third party attacking me, given the ' I don't care if you are good or evil ' . But you believe that is the mafia that attacked me ?

If you really wanted to give your best shot at having the Mafia attack you, and you were ready to lynch, why not outright claim something dangerous, like Vigilante or Detective? That would certainly paint a bigger target on you than the scummy "maybe I'll reveal later" which basically guaranteed your lynch. If you still survived the night and figured the town should lynch you, you could just go "I lied, I'm not a detective, I'm an ordinary townie" and this would probably have happened anyway.

[seireikhaan]

"And so, everyone convinced of God Emperor's guilt, they sent him to kneel before their lord, several holding him down in a kneeling position," the elderly man continued. "God Emperor insisted down to the very end that he was an ordinary servant of their lord, but the mob refused to believe him, on account of his earlier escape at night. Mainyu, for his part, was actually a bit impressed with everyone for their decisiveness, and he took his sword from its sheath. With a quick stroke, he took off God Emperor's head. After that, he dismissed the group once more for the night."

"So, Granpa, did anyone know if he really was a bad man? Did he tell anything?"

"Oh, certainly not, pumpkin. Its not as though everyone has a grand speech where they explain their dastardly deeds before they die. No, no, everyone was pretty much completely in the dark for a long, long while....."



IT IS NOW OFFICIALLY NIGHT 2. ORDERS WITHIN 24 HOURS, PLEASE.


13 God Emperor (Zack, Renata, Beskar, Earthling, Khazaar, Warman, glyphz, DIY, Capt Blackadder, Ironside, JHT, classical, Riedquat)
4 Fluffy (SoulBlade, God Emperor, Romanic, Double A)
3 woad&fangs (dcmort, Believer, woad&fangs)
2 White_Eyes (Yaropolk, Reenk)
2 Chaotix (White_Eyes, Seon)
2 Romanic (Fluffy, autolycus)
1 Earthling (TLD)
1 Ironside (ATPG)
1 Believer (Chaotix)
1 autolycus (GH)
1 TheLastDays (Diamondeye)
1 ATPG (robbiecon)
1 robbiecon (Andres)
---
2 not voting (choxorn, Secura)


Alive: 34

Andres
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
Believer
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Choxorn
Classical Hero
Dcmort
Death is Yonder
Diamondeye
Double A
Earthling
Fluffy
Johnhughthom
GeneralHankerchief
Glyphz
Ironside
Khazaar
Reenk
Renata
Riedquat
Robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Seon
SoulBlade
TheLastDays
Warman
Woad&fangs
White Eyes
Yaropolk
Zach



Killed: 4

TinCow (N1)
Tratorix (N1)
Visorslash (N1)
B_ray (N2)

Lynched: 2

Arjos (D1)
God Emperor (D2)

[White_eyes:D]

Your a EVIL EVIL man Khaan.

[Zack]

I think the bandwagon on GE has only been surpassed in Capo 3.

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