Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

This makes me angry. Does anyone actually care about catching scum?

You're committing the common error of showing a lack of foresightedness. Fluffy:

a) Has just as much a chance of being scum as anyone else, and since no real cases have jumped out this round he is an equally valid option anyway,
b) Is impossible to analyze in the endgame, when the chances of lynching a mafioso are significantly higher due to percentage

Getting rid of him now will save us all a lot of trouble in the rounds where we're more likely to catch a mafioso anyway. Since, as I pointed out in A, there aren't any real other cases going on, I fail to see why the Fluffy lynch today is an issue (aside from the fact that the bandwagon is picking up steam, but there's nothing you can do about that).

[Visor]

I fail to see why the Fluffy lynch today is an issue (aside from the fact that the bandwagon is picking up steam, but there's nothing you can do about that).

Because he's the best damn mafia player we have.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Wait, since when did a FoS warrant a OMGUS vote? Wouldn't it be an OMGUS FoS?

You confuse me.

[Double A]

You confuse me.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

[woad&fangs]

vote: glyphz
1) I like Renata's case on him at this point.
2) Metagame vendetta (joking)
3) I agree with fluffy's well thought out analysis of the harmfulness of text walls in the act of mafia hunting. It would be a shame to waste the most scholarly mind of Babylon.

[Earthling]

And I'll give you 4) a reason to unvote, which is that you're not likely to succeed at lynching glyphz in fluffy's place. Voting for a second candidate that won't be lynched if fluffy is anyway, and not being clear whether you really want to save fluffy or just get said other guy is not helpful. It does allow for a scum to be on any bandwagon today and go "I told you so" no matter what fluffy is in the end though. If we're going to randomly lynch someone who is probably a townie solely to rouse up better posting then I agree fluffy is the right call for benefitting future town efforts, and I'd unvote and vote fluffy before one of the other two. So it's just not a good reason to condemn someone else only because they are not fluffy. The only way you'd gain traction is if you find some fluffy voters and convince them to unvote and I'm giving another incentive to imagine that still won't work.

This day has simply been disappointing discussion wise with the ridiculous bandwagons that took off not based on real evidence. Even though I get we couldn't expect anything more revealed new from axeguy or other roles, we've had very little discussion on whether people now believe that GE was a townie or mafia, which should be absolutely huge in deciding people's votes but isn't.

Of course, we do have enough total people not voting for fluffy that it's a shame the fluffy lynch is winning anyway, but the chances of getting everyone on a decent bandwagon now are slim, and if there was a chance, I'd obviously prefer to go for the still scummy TLD.

[Death is yonder]

Vote: DiY

Let me think.

An interesting reaction considering I have not been involved in private communication with you

Are you just going to jump on every bandwagon that comes up?

Vote for whom you suspect. Jumping on bandwagons to "save yourself" is pointless this early in the Day.

Something note worthy too, much akin to GE trying to subtly nudge the voting direction elsewhere, except in your case, a bit more blatant.

My vote stays.

For all those voting Fluffy and claiming "foresightedness" (GH), you ignored this:

1. Voting fluffy possibly allows scum to just hide in the woodwork with an easy reason to latch on (annoying, memes, spammy, blah)
2. Wouldn't eliminating more scum suspects now make the decision easier for the final round?
a) You say that eliminating fluffy now will make it easier in the final round to guess who the scum is, but the fact of the matter is that by your very counter-productive action, you've essentially forced a lynch because now even if fluffy isn't scum, you've made him lynch bait, and he's going to survive longer anyway even if he wasn't scum
b) Eliminating more suspects now (like TLD) rather than pursuing fluffy (who possibly could have been killed) would have been more efficient in making better decisions in the final round, which was your motivation for voting fluffy.

I concede reason 2a can be taken as encouraging fluffy's lynch, but that is not my intention.

[glyphz]

There must really be a lack of leads this day...

vote: glyphzIt looks fake. None of the other bandwagons were remotely serious as "threats" to GE getting lynched, so why the pose? During the night glyphz says GE needs to be lynched if no claim, yet there was a claim, and glyphz didn't comment on it at all, just this fake looking vote.

At the time I began writing that post, the lead on the G_E wagon dropped from 6 (Romanic's tally post post #380) to 3, including a couple of unvotes. The focus of the last posts were going away from G_E (check it out), and I saw that as a bad sign, hence the message style.

As for the reason? I was not convinced of his civilian reveal. Not after surviving an attack. And not after hinting that he has something to disclose regarding that matter, and acting unsure how to do it. I also did not agree w/ his reasoning, for delaying the truth of his nature, saying it was for the sake of generating discussion, I thought it only had us running in circles trying to guess what transpired or what he was.

[glyphz]

I'm going to come out and say up front, that I'm a vanilla townie, and I suspect God Emperor was also one.

Therefore, it seems clear that the big guy with the axe is incompetent when it comes to killing people.

You could have made your point w/o the need of referencing yourself. Revealing, while under no suspicion/pressure, just makes me think you're suspicious.
Vote: Zack

[Yaropolk]

unvote: atpg; vote: glyphz

[thefluffyone93]

So I'm being lynched because I'm unhelpful?
................
Really, is that the best you can come up with?


I never play these games with the intention to hunt down mafia;
quite frankly, enough (too many, in my opinion) players
delve into dissecting every single post.
Me, I really don't give a damn, and I vote for who I want, when I want,
or when I know a player has been outed (no thanks to me) as mafia.
If there weren't so many bandwagons to jump on, or
I would always choose randomly, or I would choose Chaotix!

Now that I am done with my speech, I will now post
everyone's reaction to this.


And then I will commenced to be lynched.

And the spam will continue, as it always will.

CUZ YOU CAN'T STOP TROLLS

HURR DURR

[thefluffyone93]

Oh, and Vote: Chaotix

bleh.

[Yaropolk]

Very proud of that btw - my original creation!

[Seon]

Agreed there. FOS: Zack

As for my actual vote, as much as it is impossible now for any payer to overtake the bandwagon that has been erupted around fluffymonster, would go to Vote: TheLastDays. Here is why.

1. He seemed almost entirely certain that the winged woman was either a vig or a serial killer, but not mafia, in day 1. Only way that I know for anybody to be certain about anything in day 1 is if he or she is a mafia.

2. Further investigations have shown that he is reluctant to share opinions about the game with other people. This has, in my experience, mostly been a non-town behavior.

3. He's jumped into two bandwagons already to save his own skin. While it may just be a sign of a panicking townie, the behavior is also a characteristic of a mafia.

It's not much, but it is better than the one in fluffy.

[thefluffyone93]

POSSIBLE CHANCE TO AVOID DEATH?
YES PLEASE
Unvote; Vote: TheLastDays

[Yaropolk]

Current tally:

7 Fluffy (Chaotix, Romanic, jh, GH, TLD,khazar, soulblade)
6 glyphz (Renata, dcmort, W_e, ironside, w&f, yaro)
6 TheLastDays (DIY, Believer, Earthling, Seon, fluffy, riedquat)
4 Double A (Andres, Capt Blackadder, DE, eliteking)
1 Romanic (zack)
1 zack (glyphz)

[thefluffyone93]

LE GASP
TIE FTW

Unvote;Vote: glyphz

[Seon]

Stop it, fluffy, you are making me want to vote for you :p

[Chaotix]

Nah. Don't like ties. Too indecisive.

Unvote, Vote: glyphz

[Chaotix]

Ignore this

[Tratorix]

Aw, I want TLD to get lynched. Make it happen people.

[thefluffyone93]

Ignore this

I WILL NOT.
THIS POST WAS OBVIOUSLY CLAIMING
HIS SCUMMINESS TO THE WORLD.

Aw, I want TLD to get lynched. Make it happen people.

HAY!
...............
Will you give me a cookie?

[Chaotix]

I WILL NOT.
THIS POST WAS OBVIOUSLY CLAIMING
HIS SCUMMINESS TO THE WORLD.

Quiet you, before I change my mind.

It's not every day I save my scum memebuddy from the lynch.

[Earthling]

glyphz is very likely not mafia, if he was he'd have had other teammates defending him more at this point and that's besides the fact there's no real case on him here.

Chaotix I guess is excused for changing votes because he was one of the first to vote for fluffy and not a bandwagonner, so he's not exactly being a hypocrite. Nevertheless I said I'd disagree with this vote swing and as my suspect is not getting lynched I will

Unvote; vote: fluffy

We'll see what any stragglers think and there's glyphz's own vote of course too.

[Zack]

You could have made your point w/o the need of referencing yourself. Revealing, while under no suspicion/pressure, just makes me think you're suspicious.
Vote: Zack

Are you kidding me? God Emperor was crucified for failing to reveal quickly, and for bungling the situation in general.

How was that suspicious in any way?

Why shouldn't I reveal myself? I'm vanilla, I don't have anything to hide from anyone.

[glyphz]

Consecutive posts by fluff w/o a meme... I must be dreaming

[Tratorix]

glyphz is very likely not mafia, if he was he'd have had other teammates defending him more at this point and that's besides the fact there's no real case on him here.

Chaotix I guess is excused for changing votes because he was one of the first to vote for fluffy and not a bandwagonner, so he's not exactly being a hypocrite. Nevertheless I said I'd disagree with this vote swing and as my suspect is not getting lynched I will

Unvote; vote: fluffy

We'll see what any stragglers think and there's glyphz's own vote of course too.

I thought you wanted to lynch TLD? Why glyphz over him?

[thefluffyone93]

Consecutive posts by fluff w/o a meme... I must be dreaming

[Visor]

^^

I love this guy.