A durable solution for Africa

[Fragony]

Because it is regarded as racist doesn't mean it doesn't work better. And the locals have, over the course of 60 years, clearly shown that they are less able. The permanent state of civil war and food crises just proves it.

Sure. But not able is not the same as not capable. Now if we put the money we throw away now in something that can work. Screw the accusationss of racism and govern for while

[Skullheadhq]

Sure. But not able is not the same as not capable. Now if we put the money we throw away now in something that can work. Screw the accusationss of racism and govern for while

We did it once, and they screwed up afterwards and we were seen as evil and blamed for the failure of what happened afterwards, even to this day some hold this view.

[Jolt]

When I saw the thread title, and the person who started it, I laughed a lot. When I opened the thread, I laughed some more.

I agree with recolonization, but why leaving? Why should a economical failing Europe invest in defeating well equipped and modern armies, plus having to endure guerilla groups in every single country, and then dumping loads of money (Provided we actually manage to defeat or minimize guerrilla groups), and then leaving?

If we actually went in, we would be there to stay for another couple hundred years. Africa has a huge economical potential, but its elites are braindead retarded, most of the African societies are run on corruption and patronage. Wealth and opportunity are absorbed and siphoned off to those elites. We'd have a green-based electrical powerhouse in the Sahara if it were up to the Europeans, providing a much cheaper and reliable alternative to the Russian imports. And that is just one side of how a united Europe could turn a colonial Africa into a superpower.

We could really start with Somalia. Invade the whole thing and implement European colonial rule. No more pirates in a year's time.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Meh. There's lots of misery in Africa, but if you were truly intent on fixing it I suggest you donate some money to the likes of Oxfam and leave the White Man's Burden at home. Micro credit beats colonial rule.

[Slyspy]

Meh. There's lots of misery in Africa, but if you were truly intent on fixing it I suggest you donate some money to the likes of Oxfam and leave the White Man's Burden at home. Micro credit beats colonial rule.

As far as I'm concerned Oxfam et al is a manifestation of the White Man's Burden, not an alternative to it.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Yes, and after you pay up you can pretend to have done your bit and leave the rest of it at home, as opposed to some harebrained takeover scheme.

[Fisherking]

..., but its elites are braindead ...

and ours are better?

[Centurion1]

and ours are better?

I am going to answer that one............... YES. A thousand times YES.

[Fisherking]

I am going to answer that one............... YES. A thousand times YES.

And I think that political leaders will get away with what ever they can.

I don’t think that a Bill Clinton or George Bush would govern an African country much different from the leaders they have.

When someone has power of that extent they tend to use it in the same way.

Look at the colonial legacy and see if they are not handling things in much the same way as those who came before.

[Papewaio]

Look at the colonial legacy and see if they are not handling things in much the same way as those who came before.

India was a colony, so were Singapore and Malaysia. Seems to be that colony =/= automatic failure.

[Jolt]

and ours are better?

I'll leave that as a rhethorical.

[Lemur]

So would a "durable" solution be something similar to a "final" solution? Oh, I couldn't help myself! Thank you, thank you, I'll be playing here all week. Try the veal. Tip your waitress -- but don't tip her over!

[Vladimir]

So would a "durable" solution be something similar to a "final" solution? Oh, I couldn't help myself! Thank you, thank you, I'll be playing here all week. Try the veal. Tip your waitress -- but don't tip her over!

Agreed.

You can't treat an entire continent as a problem. In less, of course, you're in Antarctica and the problem involves birth control.

Advocates of imperialism should always consider how keen they would be for the situation to be reversed. To be consistent, European imperialists should welcome the armed intervention of the People's Liberation Army to come and sort out our inability to run our own countries.

Unwanted colonisation seems to be a subject that exercises Fragony most of the time - odd to see him advocating it as a solution for others.

I welcome a Belgian takeover of the U.S. The healthcare plan would include free waffles, fries, and beer for seniors.

[Adrian II]

We did it once, and they we all screwed up afterwards

Exploitation, slavery, humiliation and bloodshed left their mark on Africa at least as much as railways, schools, cigarettes and Albert Schweitzer did.

Afterwards everybody screwed up, not just Africans. The greatpowers mangled that continent and bled it dry with their proxy wars and military coups and fights over minerals.

I don't know, I have a sense that somehow we're not welcome yet as overlords of Africa.

AII