Netherworld III: Final Judgment [Concluded]

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

This game is alarmingly not all about me. Someone needs to do something to rectify this.

I'll personally vouch to have ATPG revive. How about that?

[Death is yonder]

Bleh sorry 'khaan, came home a 'lil too late.

Would have decided to head back on my previous feeling and vote Chaotix.

As for Andres, he's definitely hiding something, which can be interpreted however you would like, and his claim could just as easily be conveniently forged.

In any case, the write up (a quick glance show's he's probably getting lynched) should provide at least a minute indication.

Post Preview: Oh there's a tally, correction, Andres IS getting lynched.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Bleh sorry 'khaan, came home a 'lil too late.

Would have decided to head back on my previous feeling and vote Chaotix.

As for Andres, he's definitely hiding something, which can be interpreted however you would like, and his claim could just as easily be conveniently forged.

In any case, the write up (a quick glance show's he's probably getting lynched) should provide at least a minute indication.

Post Preview: Oh there's a tally, correction, Andres IS getting lynched.

He's getting lynched. How would you have guessed?

[Zack]

Vote:Andres

I'm voting now !

He's getting lynched. How would you have guessed?

Unvote, Vote: Warman

[classical_hero]

We need to get the votes off Andres. I just think that if he got revived then the person behind the reviving has a reasonable explanation. vote:warman

[GeneralHankerchief]

Alright, I'm down for saving my cultbuddy. Would prefer the votes to go to Chaotix but we can save that for next round.

Unvote: Chaotix
Vote: Warman

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I make a simple joke and everyone wants me dead?


Go ahead,kill me. And you will see you wasted a vote on a innocent person .

[Riedquat]

I will not contribute to this wagon on Andres, even though I am suspicous of him. I like the case on Chatoix more. vote: Chaotix

Andres will die though, probably and I guess it's good. Things like "give me another round" didn't work too well for the town in Netherworld I

You forgot to bold your vote!

I'm going to contribute with his lynch, Andres answers to Beskar's questions eliminated that feeling I had about voting a confirmed doctor...

Unvote: person x; vote: Andres

[Riedquat]

After Zack's vote I was tempted to vote Warman too... lol I'm still tempted...

[Yaropolk]

unvote: classical; vote:warman i dont know much about him either

[Zack]

Unvote, Vote: Warman

I didn't realize I was so persuasive!

We need to get the votes off Andres. I just think that if he got revived then the person behind the reviving has a reasonable explanation. vote:warman

Alright, I'm down for saving my cultbuddy. Would prefer the votes to go to Chaotix but we can save that for next round.

Unvote: Chaotix
Vote: Warman

After Zack's vote I was tempted to vote Warman too... lol I'm still tempted...

unvote: classical; vote:warman i dont know much about him either

[Earthling]

I make a simple joke and everyone wants me dead?

They're called cultists. Townies who wanted to change bandwagons and not go after Andres would still go for a real suspect like TLD and not a random probable townie. However, if several are cultists they don't care who dies as long as it's not their ally, so the most convenient bandwagon they can find works.

Even if the reviver is town, that doesn't mean Andres isn't be a cultist except by his own not-to-be-trusted word - he says he died a cultist, could have just been revived and still a cultist with the reviver not affecting that picture. For all his inaccurate ranting about town networks he's clearly not acted in favor of the town. There's absolutely no excuse for not telling everyone immediately after he was revived what he knew about cult activity.

I didn't realize I was so persuasive!

One of the abilities of being a cult leader is it not? Or do you have some other explanation you still owe us for dodging abilities used on you and surviving a night attack?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

They're called cultists. Townies who wanted to change bandwagons and not go after Andres would still go for a real suspect like TLD and not a random probable townie. However, if several are cultists they don't care who dies as long as it's not their ally, so the most convenient bandwagon they can find works.

Even if the reviver is town, that doesn't mean Andres isn't be a cultist except by his own not-to-be-trusted word - he says he died a cultist, could have just been revived and still a cultist with the reviver not affecting that picture. For all his inaccurate ranting about town networks he's clearly not acted in favor of the town. There's absolutely no excuse for not telling everyone immediately after he was revived what he knew about cult activity.



One of the abilities of being a cult leader is it not? Or do you have some other explanation you still owe us for dodging abilities used on you and surviving a night attack?

[Riedquat]

There's absolutely no excuse for not telling everyone immediately after he was revived what he knew about cult activity.

With this I fully agree.

[Choxorn]

As much as I hate rescue bandwagons, I'd have to agree with Zack that Warman's last few posts have been really, really scummy.

Unvote, Vote: Warman

[glyphz]

Day ended already right?

Vote: abstain

Got 2 'days' worth of catching up to do, but not right now...

[Riedquat]

Day ended already right?

Vote: abstain

Got 2 'days' worth of catching up to do, but not right now...

If I'm not mistaken it should have ended like 10 minutes before Choxorn's vote

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Wasting your vote on me.

[Riedquat]

One of the abilities of being a cult leader is it not? Or do you have some other explanation you still owe us for dodging abilities used on you and surviving a night attack?

Sorry, but how do you explain Zack's vote on Andres then? Remember Sack's vote was the second after Beskars, also did you note who voted for Sack?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

So,what's the official tally?

[Riedquat]

So,what's the official tally?

Andres 6 (Beskar, Chaotix, jht, w&f, warman, Riedquat)
Warman 4 +1 (Zack, classical_hero, GH, Yaropolk, Choxorn)
Zack 1 (Andres)

6:5 if we count Choxorn vote... and if I'm not mistaken...

[Earthling]

Sorry, but how do you explain Zack's vote on Andres then? Remember Sack's vote was the second after Beskars, also did you note who voted for Sack?

You seem to be mistaken about something, because neither Zack nor Andres have recently placed any meaningful pro-town votes or votes against each other. Solitary votes against someone with no chance of being lynched or a vote that is soon unvoted again are extremely common scum distancing tactics.

On the other hand, Zack has been on an awful lot of bandwagons to "save" people that end up lynching townies. Save TLD to lynch Arjos, a townie. Save Diamondeye to lynch Seon, a townie. Trying to save Andres today without any case on Warman. And I think we'd all just want an explanation for what he is, as a likely non-town power role, that's common sense even if he's not cult.

[Zack]

As much as I hate rescue bandwagons, I'd have to agree with Zack that Warman's last few posts have been really, really scummy.

Unvote, Vote: Warman

If voting was still open, I would change and vote choxorn. All his posts have either been jokes, meaningless, fluff, or all three:

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A preist and a rabbi walk into a bar. The preist says "ouch," and the bartender says "What is this, a joke?"

Vote: GeneralHandkerchief, at the bidding of the Random Number God.

Unless you have a game with a lot of mafias and lynch immunities- I've seen a couple with more anti-townies being lynched than townies. (I'm looking at you, Camikaze's LOTR game)

Oh, and sorry for not being around yesterday, my internet decided to be a and disconnected while I was reading the thread, and then I forgot about it.

I love this thread so much.

Chaotix, Fluffy does not ragequit games. Games ragequit Fluffy.

It's 14 if "Boo-yeah" is 2 words, 13 if it's only one word.

Or jumping on a bandwagon for people that are "scummy", with no other explanation, or "good case!" given:

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I don't have time to read through the past 5 pages, so I'll just Vote: TheLastDays for his general scummy atmosphere.

I still think that Vote: TheLastDays is scummy.

Vote: TheLastDays, because we should have killed him a long time ago.

Vote: TheLastDays

This is the best case I've seen so far.

Unvote, Vote: glyphz

It appears the dark sword killer struck again tonight. Seeing as he wasn't Renata...

Vote: glyphz, unless he was roleblocked again.

Unvote, Vote: TLD

Because I still think that nobody should be allowed to act as scummy as he has and not be lynched.

Even though he hadn't been voting TLD for awhile.

Vote: TheLastDays

No, I still haven't given up on this.

As much as I hate rescue bandwagons, I'd have to agree with Zack that Warman's last few posts have been really, really scummy.

Unvote, Vote: Warman

Or not really helpful, but not necessarily meaningless comments:

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I... wait, what? Why? Where did this Believer-wagon come from? Why should I vote for him, anyway?

If I thought that voting for TLD was scummy, why would I be doing it?

Nose of Suspicion: Khazaar

Well.... not really, no, I don't have much new points to add aside from his scumminess early in the game. At the point, I'm mostly just voting him on my "he's still too scummy to still be alive" principle when I don't see anyone better to vote for.

For instance, I still don't get why the case on Andres is a good one, but maybe that's just because I don't know what's going on behind-the-scenes.

Or an isolated vote on someone, whom he thinks there is a valid case against (and the only time it's his own case, and not someone else's), yet never saying another word about that person:

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Unvote, Vote: johnhughthom

This is the second day in a row you made a vote near the end of the day to join a sudden end-of-day bandwagon that sprouted from almost nowhere, and I'm getting a scummy vibe from you. Care to explain that?

FoS: choxorn

[johnhughthom]

You can disregard that last bit on choxorn, it was my awesome defence that kept him from following up.

Nope.

Why would anybody follow up after that, totally not scummy at all sir, defence?

[Choxorn]

Well, I didn't follow up because I was focusing on other things (like TLD and glyphz and whatever the heck else was going on). I think at one point someone connected glyphz to jht, and I ended up deciding that since glyphz was a probable town by that point, there might not be anything wrong with jht's voting.

On the other hand, the existence of this cult changes things a bit. I had no idea there was one until Andres mentioned it. I think I'll have to look at that case again.

I haven't been paying enough attention to notice some of those things. For that matter, most of the things you've listed are just what I usually do when I'm a townie that doesn't know what's going on and isn't paying enough attention. Come on, you've played enough games with me to know I don't act like this when I'm mafia.

[Riedquat]

You seem to be mistaken about something, because neither Zack nor Andres have recently placed any meaningful pro-town votes or votes against each other. Solitary votes against someone with no chance of being lynched or a vote that is soon unvoted again are extremely common scum distancing tactics.

On the other hand, Zack has been on an awful lot of bandwagons to "save" people that end up lynching townies. Save TLD to lynch Arjos, a townie. Save Diamondeye to lynch Seon, a townie. Trying to save Andres today without any case on Warman. And I think we'd all just want an explanation for what he is, as a likely non-town power role, that's common sense even if he's not cult.

Ok, I follow you but do you understand everybody except you is lacking that common sense right now? The townies who followed warman's bandwagon without any reason could have well joined and contributed against a Zack's bandwagon if any of them were a bit suspicious of him.

[Secura]

Warman is an awful lynch.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Andres 6 (Beskar, Chaotix, jht, w&f, warman, Riedquat)
Warman 4 +1 (Zack, classical_hero, GH, Yaropolk, Choxorn)
Zack 1 (Andres)

6:5 if we count Choxorn vote... and if I'm not mistaken...

And voting is over and I'll walk away alive... at least for another day phrase anyhow.

Warman is an awful lynch.

Thank you Secura! A great piece of advice!

[Beskar]

Warman is an awful lynch.

Warman is the guy everyone wants to lynch, but it would be a waste of a lynch to lynch him.

Need some one with a misdirect...

[Secura]

Warman is the guy everyone wants to lynch, but it would be a waste of a lynch to lynch him.

Yes, it seems like both sides are at an empasse really; the town really shouldn't be wasting a lynch on him at this stage and the mafia probably don't want to use a kill on someone who isn't a threat to them.