Back to GH's case? Afterall, GH was killed for a reason...Originally Posted by johnhughthom
unvote; vote: Chaotix.
Edit: Plus DIY just fingered Chaotix as well.
Re: Netherworld III: Final Judgment [In Play]
Back to GH's case? Afterall, GH was killed for a reason...
unvote; vote: Chaotix.
Edit: Plus DIY just fingered Chaotix as well.
Last edited by Beskar; 08-25-2011 at 17:44.
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Re: Netherworld III: Final Judgment [In Play]
Who also voted Chaotix while alive, so it would be .... GH and DiY were killed for a reason... no?
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Really, people?
Obviously I can see exactly what you're talking about. GH and DiY both accused me and voted for me, and both are now dead. Now, I know I might not have always made the most subtle kill choices as a mafioso, but don't you think those past choices might have affected my judgement? If I were scum, don't you think it would be patently obvious to me that killing people who go after me is only going to attract more suspicion on me, not less.
From where I'm standing, this stinks of an obvious attempt to frame me, because there have already been players in this thread mentioning moves I "might" make. So I would be the one most likely to succeed in being lynched after a frame job. And you guys are going to fall for it, too, which is kind of sad.
So who's the quickest to jump on that wagon and start it rolling, and the most likely to use me as a patsy?
Vote: Beskar
I think it's also useful to note that Beskar returned from vacation at around the same time as Black Sword Guy/Hades started killing. Could be a simple coincidence, but I'm feeling pretty suspicious of Beskar anyway.
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That's an awful OMGUS vote. Pretty much one of the worst possible moves if you're a townie trying to defend yourself here. Really people should know better than that and you're just going to encourage people who might look at other options to let your lynch go by.
I get why you would be frustrated but that doesn't mean there's not a decent case to think you're scum here. It's WIFOM. You could have killed him because you're the last scum and simply are desperate, there's no direct evidence to your Innocence anyway. Or, another scum could have killed him just to kill a townie and knew that you'd look bad. Either way you could argue your Innocence with the "it's too obvious and simple" line.
To be clear, as I already said, I certainly get that the kills that seem to implicate you could have other simple reasons. GH because everybody knew he wasn't mafia, having been attacked by them before, and with Andres dead he wouldn't have more protection, so they were just cleaning up their messes. Death is Yonder because he was clearly a townie.
If you ask me the mafia kills I don't understand, it would be what other player as scum had a motive to kill Believer. Unless they found out Believer's role in private somehow, that kill points to a certain someone else or just was a strange coincidence. And then Ironside and Reenk came out of nowhere but those were early on.
Furthermore, I think it's less likely white_eyes was scum than at least a couple of the other dead, so you lack connections to other scum in lynches.
All that put together, you are still a suspect though, maybe not the first lynch I would choose, but not unreasonable either.
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Re: Netherworld III: Final Judgment [In Play]
Explain, Beskar.
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Beskar didn't vote on days 3, 5 and 7 if I'm not mistaken, our fire/black-poisoned-sword killer appeared on night 6? :/
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I just went over the whole game, creating a voting record... now I need to analyse that... Yes, Hades appeared on night 6.
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He appeared killing on night 6...
I think we saw him on night 5...
Is it possible we triggered his appearance when we lynched pizza? O.oIn an unmarked house, off the main road, a shadow figure knelt. A limp body lay before it on the ground, illuminated only by a single candle.
“My dearest friend... my companion... why? Why you? The world did not deserve such a noble one as yourself. But they will know your death, they will know the injustice of it. They shall weep for you as I do. This, I guarantee. For they will know my sorrow, my agony, my fury! I will create for you a monument on the greatest hill in Babylon, and all will bow before it and lament for their loss! But those who do not lament for you, those who struck you down, they will know my wrath! They shall know anger hotter than the sun, fury unquenchable even by the Euphrates itself!”
And so the shadowy figure, trembling, picked up the body and laid it on the bed. In the darkness, a red aura seemed to seep from the figure, as it turned to the door, to depart for the night.
Btw... unvote
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Well, what do we have? Keep in mind that this is just the place their vote was in the end of the day, not accounting for vote changes and I didn't double check with the thread in all cases, only when the tally seemed wron (i.e. having two votes by the same player or a player voting themselves).
bold are players who got lynched that day
red are players who got later attacked by one of the killers we've identified as Mafia (Valkyrie, Bronze scale/Sabre, Green Man, Hades)
Autolycus:
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I don't see much there. Lots of inactivity and, honestly, if I see another Kage-like Mafia I just won't count it as a victory in my head... Voted to lynch WhiteEyes who might have been scum but he was late on the wagon so possible bussing. Have to keep him in mind, I guess. I suggest lynching him soon if we don't have a good suspect. Don't want the lurkers around for endgame.
Beskar:
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Little bloodthirsty. Voting to lynch Renata and Andres during a phase where he himself stated he'll be on vacation and thus not having time to catch up so at best that's blind wagoning. Day 4 (self vote) he was never in danger. But overall I don't get very scummy vibes from him.
Captain Blackadder:
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Another lurker, what I said about auto pretty much applies here. Possible bussing on the insanely huge GE-wagon. What's to note about both auto and him is that both have missed five votes overall and are thus, by the rules, wog-eligible but since it applies to both and I doubt that both are scum it probably means nothing.
Chaotix:
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Pretty safe votes until the last two rounds and you can't avoid lynching people once the endgame draws near. GH and DiY died after accusing him but, as he haswifomedpointed out himself, that could well be a framing attempt. Still my top suspect. Jeez, we really have bad cases for this point of the game.
Choxorn:
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That's a lot of jumping around and very safe voting, other than trying to get me lynched two times none of his targets were in real danger, even glyphz, who was a suspect for long, wasn't really a candidate on Day 7. Only participated in the lynch of Zack, who was probably not Mafia after all. Well, it's something.
classical_hero:
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Same as above, lots of safe votes, even more so than Choxorns. Only paticipated in the GE-lynch and nearly everyone did.
dcmort93:
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Only lynched WE, but his votes were on stronger suspects and he followed up on his targets. IIRC glyphz was close to get lynched D6 and he was definitely close on D3. Disappeared over the last few rounds. Not one of my top suspects but someone to keep an eye on still.
DiamondEye:
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He jumped around a lot too. Supporting me, kind of, on Day 1, when lynching Arjos, then voting me on day 2. Not following up on any of his suspects, claims business over the last few rounds and, given that he stated it on several other threads I tend to believe it, under the code of sportsmanship. Still, it doesn't take a lot of time to place a safe vote and send in a kill order at night. Not a top suspect either though.
johnhughthom:
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Well, way too bloodthirsty to be Mafia, methinks. His overall playstyle this game doesn't look scummy to me either. Compared it with The Campground where he participated in only one lynch that wasn't forced (one other was a tiebreaker and another one was the second to last round where there were no other options). I think he'd be more careful as Mafia but someone who knows him better could probably comment on this.
glyphz:
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Well, honestly, I don't believe that glyphz is Mafia. And if he is and has the balls to leave his vote on someone not even close to the lead when he is tied for the lynch with fluffy and votes himself on another day where he was a strong candidate, leaving the vote on himseld, he derserves the win.
Major Robert Dump:
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Replacement. Came in after Hades started killing so it's almost impossible he is Hades. The others are hopefully dead. If they aren't there's a slight possiblity that he's replaced an inactive scum player but then why isn't he killing? Maybe after the "activation" Riedquat just mentioned only Hades can kill? Needs some looking into, still I doubt he's Mafia.
Riedquat:
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Good followup, even if it was on me. A little bloodthirsty as well but I don't know his usual playstyle so I got nothing to compare it to. If we are correct about Pizza and WE being scum it's noteworthy that he avoided these wagong while he wagoned pretty much everyone else.
Warman:
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Honestly, wtf? THis is such a schizophrenic voting pattern, I'm not even halfway through analysing that. Anyone got more thoughts on him, be my guest.
woad&fangs:
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Pretty bloodthirsty too but some following up and overall I don't get much scum vibes from him. B_Ray died N2, right after voting him on D1, might be a framing attemplt, I doubt that it was him. Still have to keep an eye on him.
Yeah, didn't do myself, sue me, this was enough work as it is
vote: Chaotix I don't have anything better at the moment.
Re: Netherworld III: Final Judgment [In Play]
Nothing to do with me, I can safely say that the only people who have died at my hand is when I voted for them.
As for Chaotix, too many dead fingers frozen for him, even some alive ones. I don't think it is simply smoke without fire. As for killing people who FoS'd you Chaotix, you almost got away with a clean sheet until John and DiY pointed at you, I forgot about GH's accusations of you.
I think GH might have had a reason to do that, so here is your chance, Chaotix. Have you been a naughty boy or what have you been up to?
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