Three Wolf Moon [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can't you just have Populus scan me, then? I turn up Mafia, and you all will feel really good about lynching me.

How about it, huh? Since you trust the guy so very much?

I'll get to Monty's other stuff later, here I need to address this:

Scumbags want to get scanned at this point if they're going to be lynched anyway.

Because, it means that someone will be scanned as scum, and they won't be able to get the shirt.... a townie won't be able to wield it.

it means we will have to guess who is townie, and it could land on a scum and we won't be able to trust the shirt's results for the remainder of the game.

That is worth sacrificing Monty for.

They need the chain to break, that is how they can still win the game. If we don't break the chain, we force a win.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's happened before.

Also, congrats to Pizza. You really can call out a mafioso.

Well, if you're townie, you're going to have your fellow players eat you alive after the game for saying this.

Never do this if you're townie.

As for your point: Yes, I can. I can also really call out a townie and really get them lynched and really ruin games that way.

The Pizza is a loaded weapon, if I aim it incorrectly, bad things happen for my team. Lately, more bad than good, so I have some catching up to do.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Such as, say, ATPG? He definitely has won this game.

I smell the WIFOM as well.

I think it fair to say that I was right on Monty. If we can continue the chain unbroken, I'll take blind lynches. We win that way by brute force now.

If we hit a scumbag tonight via the scan, things get a bit trickier. We really have to work hard to guess correctly who to give the shirt to tomorrow if so. But, at least we'll have two dead scums in 2 day phases.

For the paranoid, that means for the "plan" to work, I'd have to be dead scum, Monty'd have to be dead scum, person scanned as scum tomorrow has to be dead scum, and Memnon at the very least has to be dead scum.

That means 4 dead scums, or "THIS PLAN? IT NO WORKY".

So the Pizza as mafia scanning Memnon plan no worky. Toss out idea, since Monty confessed and Memnon would be your final mafioso in that case.

I'm crazy, but I'm not a maroon.

[Montmorency]

I smell the WIFOM as well.


For the paranoid, that means for the "plan" to work, I'd have to be dead scum, Monty'd have to be dead scum, person scanned as scum tomorrow has to be dead scum, and Memnon at the very least has to be dead scum.

That means 4 dead scums, or "THIS PLAN? IT NO WORKY".

So the Pizza as mafia scanning Memnon plan no worky. Toss out idea, since Monty confessed and Memnon would be your final mafioso in that case.

I'm crazy, but I'm not a maroon.

Wait, what? I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

I'll get to Monty's other stuff later, here I need to address this:

Scumbags want to get scanned at this point if they're going to be lynched anyway.

Because, it means that someone will be scanned as scum, and they won't be able to get the shirt.... a townie won't be able to wield it.

it means we will have to guess who is townie, and it could land on a scum and we won't be able to trust the shirt's results for the remainder of the game.

That is worth sacrificing Monty for.

They need the chain to break, that is how they can still win the game. If we don't break the chain, we force a win.

Welp, here's tomorrow. If you and the 3 scanned are Mafia, then tomorrow's scan will presumably be Mafia no matter what. If I was mistaken here and you're all town (the only other possibility), it can go either way. So: if the scan is town tomorrow, this means that I was utterly and foolishly wrong. However, it's totally your fault for getting me riled up and putting all sorts of weird ideas into my head with your tricksy posterings and doing nothing to dispel them (instead choosing to go all out against me; more or less OMGUS really). Loaded weapon indeed.

Well, if you're townie, you're going to have your fellow players eat you alive after the game for saying this.

Never do this if you're townie.

Why? If we're both town, it's you they should reproach.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wait, what? I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

Oh, okay, Monty "Mafioso" Confessington wants me to rephrase? Very well.


Let me utterly tear apart the delusional paranoia that is me being scum right now, fantasy by outrageous fantasy:

1) My team will have needed the ability to murder themselves. That plus a detective device which isn't reliable? A bit too many cards in the scums favor.
2) I know I'm townie, so it's obviously not ME you're trying to convince. That leaves the folks out there who you just told you were guilty to. Good luck, and stuff.
3) But let's play pretend. I'm scum.... so my plan was to clear Memnon. Why? I die to clear a townie? Nah. I die to clear a scum, so he's scum.

a) Pizza and Memnon are now scum. And I'm DEAD.
b) Monty "Mafioso" Confessington is now townie in this scenario. Bravo and well done, townie.
c) So unless Memnon "cleared" Johhog (which means my whole team left it a tie between me and Johhog for the lynch... and then murdered me) Johhog is townie.
d) Johhog is townie means that Populus is townie.
e) Which means that Populus is townie scans a townie means THAT player is townie.
f) blind lynches continue and the chain continues, and no scum team is that large as to have each scanee be wolf. So what does that mean?
g) the END OF THE CHAIN IS ALWAYS TRUSTWORTHY........
h) SCAN MEMNON.
i) He's townie. Wanna know how I know? Because I'm townie!!!! GASP! GASP!!! And now, in French: le GASP!!!!!
j) Alternative scenario. Pizza and Memnon and Johhog and Populus are all mafia. So that means WHOEVER POPULUS SCANS, that person is townie.
k) If Populus scans that person and he says they're townie, that person can scan Memnon. That person's results are trustworthy because there's not 5 mafiosi or you're already boned, dude.
l) once again, the end of the chain is always trustworthy.... even if the scumbags form the beginning of the chain. You make the chain long enough, and have it loop back around, it is IMPOSSIBLE for scums to hide within the chain
m) And I was the one who pointed it out.
n) And you confessed to being mafia.
o) And you confessed to being mafia.
p) And you confessed to being mafia.
q) And you confessed to being mafia.
r) And you confessed to being mafia.
s) And you confessed to being mafia.
t) And you confessed to being mafia.
u) And you confessed to being mafia.
v) And you confessed to being mafia.
w) And you confessed to being mafia.
x) And you confessed to being mafia.
y) And you confessed to being mafia.
z) And you confessed to being mafia.

Why? If we're both town, it's you they should reproach.

See points N through Z as to why it would be you they'd reproach.

[B-Wing]

DRUNK POST WARNING:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

No idea what's going on, but I've been ROFLBURGERing at ATPV and Montmorcey for a while now! You two are keeping this game alive for me. Volcano, if you're scum, you win my heart. Montmerency, if you're scum, you win my heart. If you're both scums, you win everything. Forever. Zack, you said "Cover 2" in the write-up, and I thought it was hillarious! Seamus man, what are you even doing? You're not even hosting Capo yet and you're all quiet. Why? I want more Seamus! (I can't find the hammer gavel icon, but I wanted to put it here)

[Montmorency]

I confessed because I am mafia. I thought that was obvious.

Aha, I kept thinking, "Maybe he's just not -"

If Populus scans that person and he says they're townie

See, that's where we differ in the hypothetical. I specifically mentioned a prerequisite: that the shirt mechanic be reversed for Mafia (Mafia scans Mafia as Town and vice versa).

So the idea was that whoever Populus scans turns up as Mafia. That guy gets lynched. Now yes, after that happens the next person who gets the shirt is townie. But see, why would anyone else scan one of that trio, after you so *valiantly* sacrificed yourself to clear them? And so Town reaches endgame, realizes that it's been tricked, and dies outnumbered.

That's what I'm asking you to refute.

See, I came up with this on the fly and casually mentioned it as, "Wait, what if Mafia takes the WIFOM to another level." So you could have nullified this nascent suspicion by just addressing it directly. Instead, you made jokes and skirted around it. And so I kept repeating it, growing more suspicious by the hour. And then you blasted me with a massive OMGUS accusation. "Hey, guys, what if Pizza and those 3 are really Mafia? Any thoughts here?" Pizza: "YOU THINK Memnon, Johhog, and Populus ARE MAFIA?! DIE.

[Montmorency]

DRUNK POST WARNING:

Volcano, if you're scum, you win my heart. Montmerency, if you're scum, you win my heart. If you're both scums, you win everything.

If we're both Town, revoke our Gameroom access.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I confessed because I am mafia. I thought that was obvious.

Aha, I kept thinking, "Maybe he's just not -"



See, that's where we differ in the hypothetical. I specifically mentioned a prerequisite: that the shirt mechanic be reversed for Mafia (Mafia scans Mafia as Town and vice versa).

So the idea was that whoever Populus scans turns up as Mafia. That guy gets lynched. Now yes, after that happens the next person who gets the shirt is townie. But see, why would anyone else scan one of that trio, after you so *valiantly* sacrificed yourself to clear them? And so Town reaches endgame, realizes that it's been tricked, and dies outnumbered.

That's what I'm asking you to refute.

See, I came up with this on the fly and casually mentioned it as, "Wait, what if Mafia takes the WIFOM to another level." So you could have nullified this nascent suspicion by just addressing it directly. Instead, you made jokes and skirted around it. And so I kept repeating it, growing more suspicious by the hour. And then you blasted me with a massive OMGUS accusation. "Hey, guys, what if Pizza and those 3 are really Mafia? Any thoughts here?" Pizza: "YOU THINK Memnon, Johhog, and Populus ARE MAFIA?! DIE.

Okay! How about THIS, scumball:

For Populus Romanus to FALSELY SCAN someone as mafia, that means Pizza through Populus must ALL be guilty.

Which means what.

That means we could give Believer the shirt. Or Tratorix. Or Visorslash. And what will happen? They scan Memnon. And since Pizza through Populus must ALL be guilty for Populus' scan to be false, Memnon flips townie completely destroys that theory, because for Pizza through Populus to be mafia, that leaves too many scums for anyone else to be mafia.

Once again, scanning Memnon wins the game. And it happens next round. Sounds like my whole plan is pretty ed right now, since it can never work, ever!

[Askthepizzaguy]

And like the man said, don't ever do that confession thing when you're townie. That damages the town way worse than a blind lynch on suspected townie Montmorency, for obvious reasons.

[Montmorency]

For Populus Romanus to FALSELY SCAN someone as mafia, that means Pizza through Populus must ALL be guilty.

Yes, finally.

That means we could give Believer the shirt. Or Tratorix. Or Visorslash. And what will happen? They scan Memnon. And since Pizza through Populus must ALL be guilty for Populus' scan to be false, Memnon flips townie completely destroys that theory, because for Pizza through Populus to be mafia, that leaves too many scums for anyone else to be mafia.

Once again, scanning Memnon wins the game. And it happens next round. Sounds like my whole plan is pretty ed right now, since it can never work, ever!

It can't, can't it? No one but me believes it. And that's absolutely right. 55 hours from now, the next guy should scan Memnon. That would prove me wrong. I would admit it, say it straight. And that's what I was asking for during the day phase. Don't give Populus the shirt. Give it to me instead. No? Ok, fine, let him have it, but please rescan one of them the next round. Look, Yaropolk's a good choice here, let's do it! Oh, you want to lynch me. Huh.

But will Memnon or one of the others be rescanned? I'll believe it when I see it. No one's taking this seriously.

Don't forget - we could have had this exchange a day ago, and I would have dropped it. You are to blame for everything.

[Montmorency]

And like the man said, don't ever do that confession thing when you're townie. That damages the town way worse than a blind lynch on suspected townie Montmorency, for obvious reasons.

Not seeing it. Explain to simple Monty.

[Tratorix]

And like the man said, don't ever do that confession thing when you're townie. That damages the town way worse than a blind lynch on suspected townie Montmorency, for obvious reasons.

It's not a good move either way. If I was mafia and one of my team revealed after their lynch I'd by pretty mad. It basically says ""Hey townies, you're on the right track! Keep following this line of investigation!"

[Montmorency]

Sure, but why is it bad for town? Because they'll actually lap it up? More's the pity for them.

[Tratorix]

Sure, but why is it bad for town? Because they'll actually lap it up? More's the pity for them.

If someone is town, they shouldn't try and mislead the town. I can't make it any simpler.

[Populus Romanus]

I can feel death closing in around me...the shirt brings power, yes, but it also be brings attention, lethal attention. I fear this may be my last night on earth, if the murder of the pizzaman is anything to go by. I must keep close to the shirt. It will protect me...save me...but only for a day.

[Montmorency]

Oh well. I'll sleep off the first-lynch disappointment and we'll kiss and make up.

I can feel death closing in around me...the shirt brings power, yes, but it also be brings attention, lethal attention. I fear this may be my last night on earth, if the murder of the pizzaman is anything to go by. I must keep close to the shirt. It will protect me...save me...but only for a day.

This is what you should have said half an hour before the phase's end.

[Populus Romanus]

This is what you should have said half an hour before the phase's end.

It is better to die with the shirt than to die without it. I'm doomed to either fate, because I highly doubt the Mafia would be foolish enough to allow a confirmed townie like myself survive to endgame.

[Visor]

Secret role... XD

Kill: Populus Romanus

[Populus Romanus]

Ha! I'll hide in the bathtub (full of bodies)! They'll never find me there.

[Populus Romanus]

They need the chain to break, that is how they can still win the game. If we don't break the chain, we force a win.

The chain breaks when we find a mafia. That is their chance.

[Ishmael]

Incidentally guys, I noted in the write-up that specifically 8 people (of 12) executed Montmorency. It seems an odd detail to include if it's irrelevant, so I thought it might refer to the number of scum left or something. Of course, bestrfcplayer had only just been replaced, so that might play into it. Thoughts?

EDIT: Never mind, just noticed there were 8 votes for Montmorency. Ignore the raving nutter in the corner.

[Visor]

Incidentally guys, I noted in the write-up that specifically 8 people (of 12) executed Montmorency. It seems an odd detail to include if it's irrelevant, so I thought it might refer to the number of scum left or something. Of course, bestrfcplayer had only just been replaced, so that might play into it. Thoughts?

8 scums left... I was going to say other things, but scumbag suits me fine.

SCUMBAG!

[johnhughthom]

Ignore the raving nutter in the corner.

Only if you stay in the corner.

[Populus Romanus]

8 scums left... I was going to say other things, but scumbag suits me fine.

SCUMBAG!

You posted via mobile device! This is grounds for execution.

[Visor]

It's worth bringing up. Why in the world would you bring that up? 8 scums in a (I think) 17 player game. That measn if you don't lynch right on the first day you lose. Jeez, I know you're not stupid, or at least I don't think you are so I think you're trying to with us. Scumbag.

You posted via mobile device! This is grounds for execution.

Do it. See how far it gets you. Technically its right, as I can move my laptop, but whatever.

Of course, bestrfcplayer had only just been replaced, so that might play into it.

What the hell is this? Are you trying to spout for no reason? I've seen you play before, and this is weird compared to Vespasian. Don't know what you are trying to do by this.

[Montmorency]

For the record, I'm sorry I got you lynched in Vespasian, Populus.

[Visor]

I'm not. Saved gibbo for another round. Damned inactives.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Don't forget - we could have had this exchange a day ago, and I would have dropped it. You are to blame for everything.

Ugh, if you're actually townie, this is a particularly spectacular failure in progress.

We'll need to stick to the scanee chain if we're to have much hope of reversing it. Like I said, even blind lynches favor us of the chain of scans continues here.

[Populus Romanus]

Ugh, if you're actually townie, this is a particularly spectacular failure in progress.

We'll need to stick to the scanee chain if we're to have much hope of reversing it. Like I said, even blind lynches favor us of the chain of scans continues here.

The scan chain will break soon, it is only a matter of time before a mafia is detected and when that happens we will not have a secure townie to hand the shirt off to. The mafia will then have their chance to infiltrate the chain and begin spreading confusion.