Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[sturmhauke]

If you can't vote, do you place a vote for the sake of appearances but it doesn't count, or are you not even supposed to put down a vote at all?

[shlin28]

What is the deal with the Nazis/Illuminati anyway? Why no attacks on Monty if Yaropolk/Subotan was so certain of his Nazi-ness? I would also like Pizza to give straight answers instead of giving us possible breadcrumbs. For now however, Vote: Yaropolk

[Chaotix]

Vote: Chaotix

Do conversions appear in write ups?



Alongside what may be a number of wiseguys trying to become mafia, I find it most prudent to lynch Chaotix, who may be at the center of this operation.

Nope.

I'm in the write-up killing Arjos. I am in previous write-ups attempting kills as well. So I can't be the masked man.

Anyway, who wants to lynch a Communist?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I have a role which might interest your group.

I can not join without losing my night ability, so I could be an outsider working for you until the time would be right for me to join.

Please reply if you are interested in my offer.

~Populus

I am definitely interested.

If you join, do you lose your night ability permanently, or just for the night you work with us?

I lose it permanently. Therefore, it would be best if I do not officially join yet so that I can use my ability to aid the group. At a later date I could start working with the group itself, although I would lose my ability.

Alright then. I will be sure to contact you when/if my group starts to take off and work its way up. At the moment, there is probably not much I can do for you, and I won't ask for your ability.

Your secret remains safe with me.

Any luck yet?

Some luck, which is better than none.

It's not as if I can make a mafia family immediately. I have to work my way up to WiseGuy first and then get more kills after that. In that respect, I have as many kills as it is possible for me to have before the end of Night 2.

I've got a couple of prospective allies at the moment. If you can participate in vigilante kills without losing your special ability, I could totally use your assistance tomorrow night, if you are willing.

Chaotix, it is obvious that if you are not protected tommorrow night the town will have your head.

I would be willing to do you a favor. I could protect you at night, every night, for the rest of the game. So long as you don't get lynched and do not attract too much attention at night you would be invincible.

In return, however, I would have to ask a favor from you. You would have to swear your allegience to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Do we have a deal?

Please be aware that if you refuse, you will not live to see tommorrow. Because if the vigilates don't finish you...the КГБ will.

Your argument is honestly full of holes and empty threats, but I can see that you're basically trying to make it more enticing to recruit me, so no harm done.

I'm in the process of thinking about your offer for the time being.

For the moment, enlighten me about the procedure that one takes to join the Communists, and about the awesome powers I get for doing so.

It would be exactly the same as joining a mafia family. You PM Seamus and and the glorious leader announcing your new loyalties.

As for new abilities, there are none I know about. What I do know is that being communist does not interfere with your original role. I am a doctor and I can still protect people. There is no reason to assume your becoming a communist would interfere with your quest to become a new don. In fact, it would make it much easier as you would be doing so with the assistance of the KGB.

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-Are not KGB. They are Fifth Columnists.

I had no idea there was any difference. Perhaps there isn't any this game

.-Do not know each other's identities.

True. I do not know anyone else's identity except for the man in charge who tells me what to do.

-Do not have the ability to solo kill or solo protect.

Things must have changed from Capo III. I maintain my role as a doctor and as a commie/KGB (again, there is a distinction?)


Role PM 1

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Role: Doctor, Fatlington Police

Alignment: Townie

Summary: You are one of the trained protection specialists fielded by the FPD. You have been infiltrated into the group of Fatlings who are likely to be named to a Committee of Vigilance so that you will be in a position to offer protection to members of the committee as they search for and eliminate threats to Fatlington.

Victory Conditions: You achieve victory by voting to lynch suspicious individuals and/or participate personally in their removal until such time as: a) all of the Mafia Dons, original and created, have been killed and b) the remaining townies and unaligned wiseguys outnumber the remaining Mafiosi. Your personal survival, though important, is secondary to the overall success of the town. See below:

Town win with 41+% of original townie roles surviving = decisive victory.
Town win with 21-40% of original townie roles surviving = clear victory.
Town win with fewer than 20% of the original townie roles surviving = close victory.
Neither side wins = draw.
Town defeat with fewer than 10% of the orginal mafiosi or wiseguys surviving = close defeat.
Town defeat 11-25% of orginal mafiosi or wiseguys roles surviving = clear defeat.
Town defeat 26+% of orginal mafiosi or wiseguys roles surviving = decisive defeat.
-- Your personal survival moves you one category up on this scale.
-- Successfully protecting 5 or more individuals (and/or killing their attackers) will also move you up one category on this scale.

Abilities:

Daytime:

1. You may vote to lynch or select as can any other player.

Nightime:

Active Actions

1. Each night phase, you may designate one other player (not yourself) to receive your protection. That player will be virtually immune to all attempts on their life for that night phase. If they are attacked and survive as a result of your efforts, you will be credited with a “save.” You may earn only one save per night.

2. In combination with 2 other townies, you can form a protection group (3 required) and attempt to protect one other player. If no attack occurs, nothing happens. If the target is attacked your group will save her/him and receive credit for the save. You cannot use your special protection powers while working with a protection team and any save will count on the townie list, not towards your promotion within the doctor trap. More than 3 townies can work in the same group (limit 5), though this does not provide any other benefit aside from participation credit. If only 2 townies participate in a save effort and the target is attacked, that effort automatically fails. If you end up, by happenstance, as the only townie attempting a save and the target is attacked, you will revert to normal doctor protection ability and will probably save the target. This may result in your identification by those who were scheduled to work with you but did not.

3. You may, in combination with 4 other townies, you can form a vigilante group (5 required) and attempt to kill one other player. More than 5 townies can work in the same group (limit 7), though this does not provide any other benefit aside from participation credit. If fewer than 5 townies participate in a kill effort, that effort automatically fails. If only 1 townie attempts a kill, that effort fails and the townie has a 1 in 6 chance of dying in making the failed attempt (50%) or of being identified by name (50%).
Passive Actions: Doctors have no passive action ability.

Secret Abilities/Traits:

These are listed in your second pre-game PM and are not to be revealed or discussed during play…only used.

Regarding Investigations: When being investigated by a detective or a made gangster, you will register as “innocent.” This is true even if actions as a Surgeon or Surgeon general result in the death of your protectee’s attackers.

Role Changing
1. After two successful protections, you will be promoted to Surgeon. A Surgeon functions exactly as does a Doctor, but during a “save” will also have some chance (1 in 6 for most, 1 in 36 for Dons and “Specials”) to cause the death of one attacker (randomly determined from the attack group). After two kills, you will be promoted to Surgeon-General. A Surgeon General functions as a Surgeon, but the chance to cause the death of an attacker during a save is substantially increased.

2. After two successful saves with a protection group, one of that group, but not you, will be offered the chance to continue the game as a doctor. Your role will not be revealed thereby, you will simply not be the one chosen.

3. After one successful kill with a vigilante group, you will cease to be a doctor and will revert to normal townie status. You may progress from there.

Role PM 2 is private

Pole PM 3

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

CDTC4 role PM3



КГБ pronounced KA-GA-BA.

You have volunteered to join the KGB as an agent.
Mother Russia will greatly reward you should you succeed in your missions. These missions will be given you at certain points in the game.

For now you are part of a sleeper cell in Fatlington and are awarded the rank of Mladshiy Serzhant (Junior Sergeant).


Should we succeed to disengage Fatlington and surrounding cities from USA, you will be remembered and given a prominent position should you elect to stay.

Chief, Department I (First Chief of Directorate)
-deletia-

I hope you will reconsider you decision, Chaotix.

As you can see, I pretty much have nothing to hide from you guys. I was trying to form a mafia group, but literally everyone who even considered joining me has been killed. Now I've decided to just continue working with the vig group I've been with since Night 1. I am still a townie.

Anyway, I survived last night by tricking Mr. Communist into protecting me from Mr. Ski Mask, so at the very least I know he was telling the truth about that. I told him I would join him if he did that. Obviously, I was lying.

Vote: Populus Romanus

You saw in the write-up what the Commie agents can do - they can solo kill as well, unless that was just an imitation killer. Let's get rid of him.

Also, I will probably need someone else to protect me after revealing this.

[TheLastDays]

Oo Could you restate your question, I'm not sure I understand it.

EDIT: This was directed at sturmhauke

[The Stranger]

whow dude... srsly? u cant even read that first pm XD

[Chaotix]

whow dude... srsly? u cant even read that first pm XD

Apologies. My monitor is widescreen, so it displays alright for me.

Anyway, I wanted to make sure I didn't leave anything out, but the important stuff is toward the end of that convo anyway.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I would expect TheStranger to lie low if he were guilty. He's played enough capo games to know that strategy.

I don't think we've heard from Yaropolk yet. But I'm thinking we just avoid the nazi/communist/3rd party speculation right now. It tends to get revealed at some point and clarified.

MRD is worth votes as TinCow said. He seemed to realize his gaff and put a ton of effort into acting like he was just overblowing it for fun. Although that could be town trying to save himself too.

GL to my colleagues :)

And by colleagues you mean?

Vote: Slysnake

The poor guy is wounded twice, a life at Mercy is no life. I say we leave him at our director's mercy.

What the heck is this vote? Vote:Clitsome

Cahoma also said a few things that struck me the wrong way but I would have to read back through for that.

Seeing last page, I will have to read the chaotix stuff now.

[Subotan]

Blimey Chaotix, are you an architect for an Aztec Pyramid or something?

[The Stranger]

why did u turn down such a promising reward? you wanted to go mafia and now you suddenly turn these over to the town?

[Cecil XIX]

vote: Populus Romanus

Let's get him talking.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm, I'm not entirely sure I want to lynch a communist just yet. Populus, make a case for your side. Sometimes the 3rd party business is a sideshow.

If there is a counter to the communists it seems pretty clear that they'll take out populus in any case, seeing as he's the doctor for the commies...

[The Stranger]

it just seems like a pretty stupid way to work if ur 3rd party. i think populus is a front if this is all legit..

[Cecil XIX]

hmm, I'm not entirely sure I want to lynch a communist just yet. Populus, make a case for your side. Sometimes the 3rd party business is a sideshow.

If there is a counter to the communists it seems pretty clear that they'll take out populus in any case, seeing as he's the doctor for the commies...

Does the distinction of being a 3rd Party really matter when there are multiple, competing mafia families? What's the difference?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hoo boy.

Coming from the guy who lynched Earthling for using obvious code, which he admitted was meant to get the commies to recruit him even if he wasn't a commie, listen here close:


1) There is a group of folks posing as communists. For ships and giggles. Admitted as such.

2) It's really obvious if you read the thread who is the ringleader of that band of pretend commies. They're the ones using direct references to communism and Russia, instead of cute little codewords.

3) Scumbags would be the priority.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I don't recall Seamus using pictures in his pm's...

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't recall Seamus using pictures in his pm's...

Nor having them come from Sigurd's photobucket account, right?


You guys actually fell for that, Chaotix, Populus? I mean seriously, is this Amateur hour?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

asleka is sigurd?

edit: yes

[Askthepizzaguy]

"https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/180px-Emblema_KGBsvg.png"


Asleka. That's Sigurd, folks. We've seen that before; during his hosting of Star Wars games.


My goodness. I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well, I'm laughing

[Renata]

I just can't figure out if Populus actually figured that was real or was just pulling Chaotix' chain. Or whose chain Chaotix is trying to pull, for that matter.

I think I might be insulting our dear leader. I should probably go hide now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is the funniest I've ever seen.

Somebody going to be a little RED in the face, won't they?

[The Stranger]

i already thought it was a bit odd...

on the other hand, chaotix did get protected. so whats up with that

[sturmhauke]

Oo Could you restate your question, I'm not sure I understand it.

OK, say Seamus tells you that you can't vote on a given Day (or it's in your role description and is triggered by certain events). Do you:

A) post a vote anyway, but it doesn't get counted in the official tallies
B) not post a vote, on pain of getting zapped from On High
C) something else happens
D) go on a bender and wake up in a strange hotel room surrounded by incriminating evidence of a crime you don't remember commiting

[The Stranger]

if he tells you that you cant vote you dont vote and you wont get zapped cuz up High told you not to vote...

[sturmhauke]

Nor having them come from Sigurd's photobucket account, right?

You guys actually fell for that, Chaotix, Populus? I mean seriously, is this Amateur hour?

That is hi-larious!

[El Barto]

El Barto seemed to have been attacked by a group of 6 vigilantes, and died on the scene.

Also, in THREE DAYS you'll see you were wrong about me. THREE DAYS!

So, in honor of some of our more insane creative players who have fallen in battle, I offer you this song.

They said I was mad, that I was insane! But now I'll show them, I'LL SHOOW THEM! MWAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

Because he's presenting as a wannabe gangster, not an actual one.

Nip 'em in the bud I'd say. Get them before they build up a family, eh?

This is the funniest I've ever seen.

Somebody going to be a little RED in the face, won't they?

Freeze! Pun Police!

Playing While Dead
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
While there are no "hero closets" in CdTC, you ARE encouraged to continue play once your character has died so as to contribute to your family/faction's victory if possible.

There ARE important restrictions than must be observed:
1. The dead may post, but not vote, select, or carry out any night actions (active or passive).
2. Dead players may not reveal their roles publicly or privately until that role has been revealed as per section V and may not reveal their “familiy” or role particulars even after that time.
3. Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player.
4.Dead players may not reveal, recount or allude to their previous night actions (or results thereof in the case of investigations) publicly or privately – even to confirm a previously made public or private reveal.
5. Unsure? Ask the host!

ask the host indeed. is game-related private communication with players allowed?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

OK, say Seamus tells you that you can't vote on a given Day (or it's in your role description and is triggered by certain events). Do you:

A) post a vote anyway, but it doesn't get counted in the official tallies
B) not post a vote, on pain of getting zapped from On High
C) something else happens
D) go on a bender and wake up in a strange hotel room surrounded by incriminating evidence of a crime you don't remember commiting

Never discount D.

All in all, just make it obvious so that my tallyers do not count it.

Extending vote deadline, because i was so late with results. See timer

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: Major Robert Dump

Just for now. Tincow's concerns deserve a little air time. I'll be incommunicado for the next 12 hours, so like, don't get all impatient, interview people.

[ByzantineKnight]

Vote: MajorRobertDump per TinCow

FOS: Chaotix
From the writeup tonight and the same reason as yesterday.

[SisterCoyote]

vote: Abstain (for the moment.)

FOS: Renata, Secura, both of whom are reported criminals. Reported by whom? Well, that's the question...and why I'm abstaining for the moment.