Recommend a frog a film?

[frogbeastegg]

I get the difference between driven by violence and just violent. I have read and enjoyed a lot of books which are driven by violence, I've written the odd bit of fiction in that style myself, and I've played a few games which fit into this category as much as a game can.

The problem is that I don't really like excessive violence full stop, in any medium. I don't find it interesting to watch, in the same way that I don't find horror scary. I'm far more of a character focused person - I like to see what makes people tick. Violence can be a part of that, and can be valid as part of that, yet it can very easily drown out the aspects I'm interested in. There comes a point where it's too much and I lose interest. Away from characters, I'm partial visual beauty. Blood and guts doesn't qualify. If something is riven by violence then it's very easy for it to lose me.

When it comes to films, I dislike hand-waved violence as much as the overly gratuitous stuff. All of those people who die in a neat little pile without a spot of blood or hint of distress are as bad as the loving shots of slow-mo dismemberment. That's one thing I appreciated with Red Cliff. The battle scenes are disturbing; people are maimed, impaled, sliced, diced, trampled, and hacked apart. There are scenes which focus specifically on this. Yet it's always handled in such a way that the film is saying "War is hell" rather than "Did you see how far his head went? Cool!" To continue the example, if Red Cliff had a few more big battle scenes in it at the expense of the quieter scenes then it would be starting to tip the balance towards the point where I lose interest.

Where I live claiming to like Tarentino is one of the critical steps to proving that you are a cut above the regular film viewer. Saying that I don't like him lumps me in with the unsophisticated crowd, one perilous step away from finding Jar Jar Binks hilarious.

I haven't heard Killbill referred to as a homage before. Rather the opposite. It's always been tagged as the amazing, inventive masterpiece which looks like pulp ultra-violence but is actually really deep if only you are sophisticated enough to understand it. According to those people, it's in a genre of its own.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Where I live claiming to like Tarentino is one of the critical steps to proving that you are a cut above the regular film viewer. Saying that I don't like him lumps me in with the unsophisticated crowd, one perilous step away from finding Jar Jar Binks hilarious.

Tarantino? Hollywood's village idiot. A gifted movie maker, but with little of interest to say. The themes he explores are the fantasies of nine year old boys stuck in the phase where they torture pets and kill off their toys in gore fantasies.
I'm stuck in that phase as well but my psychiatrist has this new medication and we're quite hopefu



Some films that have not been mentioned before:

La Gloire de mon père
Le Château de ma mère
I can watch them forever. The second one makes me cry. Gentle elegies to a previous time, to youth, to growing up. An ode to your parents.

La meglio gioventù
Italian. The difference between American and Italian pizza is the difference between the Godfather and this Italian family epic. Six hours of pulling your hair out in despair you were not born Italian, everything is so beautiful. The first hour is great, the middle is sometimes a bit slow, but the final rewards are truly touching.

[Fragony]

Tarantino is overrated, he made two good movies, Pulp Fiction and Resevoir Dogs. His latest, Inglorious Bastards bored me to tears. The Coen brothers do the same and do it much better. So does Roderuigez (Planet Terror rofl it's madness I almost coughed up my lungs laughing)

[rajpoot]

I'm surprised that people and talking about Tarantino and no one's mentioned 'From Dusk till Dawn' yet...

[Andres]

The Devil's Advocate.

I promise you won't regret it.

[Visor]

As stated before, Moon is a great choice.

I also enjoyed District 9, Faster (maybe not your kind of thing?), No country for Old Men (Hated the ending though).

[Fragony]

I'm surprised that people and talking about Tarantino and no one's mentioned 'From Dusk till Dawn' yet...

Wasn't made by Tarantino but Roderuigez. Tarantino also plays in Planet Terror (again, watch it, it's absolutely hilarious and the jokes always catch you by surprise, plus best soundtrack ever)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Tarantino? Hollywood's village idiot. A gifted movie maker, but with little of interest to say. The themes he explores are the fantasies of nine year old boys stuck in the phase where they torture pets and kill off their toys in gore fantasies.
I'm stuck in that phase as well but my psychiatrist has this new medication and we're quite hopefu

I didn't think Tarantino was exploring themes


frogbeast, you can find trailers for some of these movies on youtube...I find it to be a pretty reliable way of judging movies like batman, etc.

[TinCow]

I haven't heard Killbill referred to as a homage before. Rather the opposite. It's always been tagged as the amazing, inventive masterpiece which looks like pulp ultra-violence but is actually really deep if only you are sophisticated enough to understand it. According to those people, it's in a genre of its own.

No, it's very specifically a homage. Tarantino specifically made the film as a nod of respect towards genres that he loves and which influenced him. If you'd like a brief, but entertaining look at Kill Bill, I highly recommend you watch this video. It doesn't specifically address Kill Bill until after the credits, but it's a well made video and worth watching the whole thing. After you're done with that one, there's a specific follow up that's exclusively about Kill Bill, which can be seen .

Tarantino's other films have many elements of homage in them, but they're nothing like Kill Bill which is almost nothing but homage.

[Zim]

I'm not sure the that the statement that it's an homage filled with references and it being "tagged as the amazing, inventive masterpiece which looks like pulp ultra-violence but is actually really deep if only you are sophisticated enough to understand it. According to those people, it's in a genre of its own." are being mutually exclusive. The first is true, and the second is a common attitude (if a rather perplexing one. There are a lot of things in Quentin Tarintino movies that a film buff is more likely to get, but I've never seen his movies as especially deep).

Edit. Also, ignore this man. He seems to have Lawrence of Arabia confused with Donnie Darko.

'Lawrence of Arabia'

wut. The only thing more overrated than French cuisine is that movie. It invented overrated, it perfected it. It's awful, the overacting is laughable and the character-development is, well, also laughable.

And the main character has girly eyes

avoid at all cost

[Kagemusha]

For poetic soul like you. I think something good to watch would be: Guillermo del Toro´s, Pan´s Labyrinth.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0457430/

[Fragony]

'Edit. Also, ignore this man. He seems to have Lawrence of Arabia confused with Donnie Darko.'

I think you got confused when the actor playing Donnie Darko 'starred' in Brokeback Mountain. Makes sense

ahum


Donnie Darko is awesome. No idea what's going on and it gets me amazed gazes when I say I don't get it. Yes I'm that stupid, I also don't get The Catcher in the Rye. Somebody explain me

[Zim]

I don't have any problems with Jake Gyllenhaal. He's no Peter O'Toole, but still an ok actor. I just never saw Donnie Darko as close to matching the hype about it (yes, i see the possible connection between that belief and what someone may dislike amount Lawrence of Arabia )

The symbolism is pretty simple in the Catcher and the Rye, at least on the surface (the character has to figure out to let go and let others grow and learn through experience, rather than trying to save them from it). The main character is just so unlikable *shudder*.

'Edit. Also, ignore this man. He seems to have Lawrence of Arabia confused with Donnie Darko.'

I think you got confused when the actor playing Donnie Darko 'starred' in Brokeback Mountain. Makes sense

ahum


Donnie Darko is awesome. No idea what's going on and it gets me amazed gazes when I say I don't get it. Yes I'm that stupid, I also don't get The Catcher in the Rye. Somebody explain me