Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[Montmorency]

Unfortunately, revealing this will not turn the tide. What will the point have been?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

On N4 I protected Craterus.
On N5 I protected Sasaki.

[Memnon]

Not Craterus and Sasaki?! That's so embarrassing.

In other news, Unvote,Vote:Montmorency, shaky explanation there, by the way, I will not be around to read your reply until this time tomorrow, so don't address your witty comeback to me and expect one back. Off to sleep then!

[sturmhauke]

I don't see how a couple of protections are worth that whole "redacted" thing, it sounds like you're making up tales as you go to cover your posterior.

Vote: Montmorency

[Ishmael]

Wow, watching somebody else being bandwagoned is surprisingly entertaining *pulls over popcorn*. By the same people, too - keep an eye out on Memnon, sturmhauke and Seon, people (those are the three that have leapt out at me).

Just a reminder, if anybody wishes to join or contact the Socialist Democratic Workers' Party of Fatlington, feel free to send me a PM. Recruitment is ongoing, and with the FBI Director dead there's never been a better time to join!

EDIT: Whilst I'm not ruling out Montmorency being scum (cue him being a Don), I do think his story is more plausible than most people are presenting it - revealed doctors don't tend to last long, which presumably would be the reason for the 'redacting.' Montmorency, I apologise if this post gets you even more votes due to a Communist defending you.

[Montmorency]

Well, that's because I am. I protected Sasaki alone, for example. The Craterus protection, I did not do. I did, however, get a result email for it for some reason (I did nothing N4). Ask Andres about that: I'm CCed with him.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Doctor is a testable claim.

Nevermind

I don't think doctors can attack like he said n2, and I don't think any of the protectees were attacked to lead to a promotion.

Ishmael's edit + "that's because I am" threw me off.

[Montmorency]

I already mentioned that I'm a wiseguy. Pay attention!

[Ishmael]

Doctor is a testable claim.

Nevermind

I don't think doctors can attack like he said n2, and I don't think any of the protectees were attacked to lead to a promotion.

Ishmael's edit + "that's because I am" threw me off.

Hmm, that's interesting - I missed his claim that he attacked ATPG. Looking back at the write-up, it seems it was just a single attacker - Montmorency, would you like to elaborate on your actions that night?

EDIT: Can wiseguys successfully pull off solo attacks?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wiseguys can never pull off a successful attack solo. That is why I've been doing them to establish my whereabouts. There's no way you people would let me survive as a wiseguy otherwise.

If Monty attacked someone solo, he's likely a wiseguy, because townies risk death when they do that.

[Montmorency]

You need three wiseguys.

Pizza was complaining that everyone in the vig group on him had bailed, so I solo attacked him.

According to Pizza, someone in his PT group actually received a promotion because of me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You need three wiseguys.

Pizza was complaining that everyone in the vig group on him had bailed, so I solo attacked him.

According to Pizza, someone in his PT group actually received a promotion because of me.

Which night? IIRC the promotions were due to actual vigilante teams who attacked me. Not sure if a solo wiseguy would trigger that. N2 was it? I was being attacked by an actual group, one I put together.

You sure about this, Montmorency?

[Ishmael]

Which night? IIRC the promotions were due to actual vigilante teams who attacked me. Not sure if a solo wiseguy would trigger that. N2 was it? I was being attacked by an actual group, one I put together.

You sure about this, Montmorency?

Looking at the N2 write-up, only one person attacked you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok looked back and what was extremely unusual was the group I put together wasn't in the writeup at all.

Did Seamus forget? Let me check my notes. There should have been a full group.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes, I can now confirm there was a group of 5 vigilantes I ordered to attack me that night.

Not one appeared in the writeup and I believe all of them sent the orders.

As such, Seamus omitted them all from the writeup. That protection functioned due to a full group attack, I'm 100% sure of it.

[Montmorency]

Probably not tonight, but sure.

Also, one of the people planning to attack me dropped out. I'm missing a man for the attack on me.

We can't let me not be attacked, that's crazy.

Know of anyone who can help?

Ooh, I meant MSN. Anyway, you want me to attack you? Only if GH's protections don't work out (or have disagreeable targets). But what about the emails?

Ok, Pizza-man, I already told you that I would participate in a vig attempt against you. You declined to provide me with the names of my associates, so it looks like I'm attacking you alone tonight.

Countermand that order and decline to attack me. For your own safety.

Secondly, not enough time to reorganize a large vig group in the time allotted.

But, I have you marked down for protections now. Yay!

Uh, cool, I guess. But the night phase is over.

Yeah, I know; you should be fine though.

Are you a wiseguy or better? Zero risk to your life for doing solo attacks if you are.

Did your group hit Moros?

I hit you, bro. Story coming up btw. Had to do something.

So you can confirm that no one in your group hit Moros?

That's a shame, I wanted to see if I could find out who did that one.

Are you sure that wasn't a Made? Maybe he put those 4 girlfriends in the writeup to throw us off the track?

Was a solo killer, I think.

Therefore, that speaks of armed gunmen, folks like you perhaps.Just curious.

You can kill by yourself.

Say what now? Are you saying that I have a vig ability, or that I'm not allowed to participate in your groups? Really, no offense. I'm not actually a fascist.

Well listen, the protection on me succeeded; one defender is offered a doctor promotion thanks to you. So no one else showed up, and 5 defenders (5 iron thingies) showed up to defend me.

So you can kill people, by yourself, correct?

You can be part of my groups, but by the sounds of things you don't need to. You can attack solo>?

You-said-you-said!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay, okay.

Memory is fuzzy and so are my notes.

But what I said is true. There is a missing vig group in the N2 writeup. The protection probably functioned because of that.

[Choxorn]

Doctor is a testable claim.

Nevermind

I don't think doctors can attack like he said n2, and I don't think any of the protectees were attacked to lead to a promotion.

Ishmael's edit + "that's because I am" threw me off.

This. I'm pretty sure you can't both attack solo and protect solo, at least not successfully.

Unvote, Vote: Montmorency

[Montmorency]

Why don't you people just read my posts? Gee.

[Beefy187]

Wiseguy is a juicy result?

If you really are Wiseguy then maybe not. But you might be someone else.

Why does it seem off?

If you really are trying to help him, you could've voted for someone with couple votes instead of Renata whos not likely to be lynched today.
What your trying to do and what you are doing doesn't match up.

Also you seem confident that his not a worthy lynch nominee but you two doesn't seem to be working together.

Thus it seemed off. However, not very scummy.

[sturmhauke]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

N1: Protected Xenoneb.
N2: Attacked Pizza.
N3: Protected Ironside.
N4: Redacted
N5: Redacted

For the last two nights, I was doing personal things unrelated to the course of the game proper. Embarrassing things. But I have harmed no one; that is the truth.

Unfortunately, revealing this will not turn the tide. What will the point have been?

On N4 I protected Craterus.
On N5 I protected Sasaki.

Well, that's because I am. I protected Sasaki alone, for example. The Craterus protection, I did not do. I did, however, get a result email for it for some reason (I did nothing N4). Ask Andres about that: I'm CCed with him.

I already mentioned that I'm a wiseguy. Pay attention!

You seem to have trouble keeping your story straight there.

My reading of the rules is that a wiseguy can join protection groups, functioning as a Townie, but cannot become a Doctor. So if you were protecting someone by yourself, you ran the risk of being killed or outed. Was there some reason you tried to do a solo protect?

[Montmorency]

You seem to have trouble keeping your story straight there.

Nah, I just didn't want to reveal everything.

So if you were protecting someone by yourself, you ran the risk of being killed or outed.

I didn't expect Sasaki to be attacked, I protected him because I had nothing better to do. I was discussing vig groups with Sasaki that evening, but then he went offline and I had no other commitments.

[Ironside]

To get something more than just focus on Montmorency this round.

Vote: Romanic

He has been unusually silent this game.

[Cahoma]

Doesn't sound right to me.

Vote:Montmorency

[Subotan]

The stranger is still alive, whatever happened to that anyway?

People believed the false evidence planted on me, and then made another leap of faith to assume that if I was guilty, than the Stranger couldn't possibly be innocent.

[Diamondeye]

Back off Montmorency, guys, he's actually explaining himself. Then again I've gotten the impression that the lynch of this game is just about finding someone to lynch so you can live another day yourself... There seems to be almost zero town action here.

Vote: Clitsome - again.

[TheLastDays]

You-said-you-said!

So I think the real quesion is, why did the attack on Pizza function if you attacked him all alone?

[TheLastDays]

Back off Montmorency, guys, he's actually explaining himself. Then again I've gotten the impression that the lynch of this game is just about finding someone to lynch so you can live another day yourself... There seems to be almost zero town action here.

Vote: Clitsome - again.

So to "cure" this problem you vote for the guy with the strange name... again?

[fyremarble]

I request a tally before i vote.

[The Stranger]

Montmorency: 12 (Cahoma, Yaropolk, Renata, Sprig, Beefy, FrozeninIce, BRay, W&F, Seon, Memnon, Sturmhauke, Choxorn)

Clitsome: 2 (Andres, Diamondeye)
AggonyKing: 2 (Sasaki, Gibsonsg)

Neri: 1 (Johhog)
Memnon: 1 (OTLD)
Johhog: 1 (ATPG)
Sasaki: 1 (Jolt)
Renata: 1 (visorslash)
Jolt: 1 (landlubber)
Romanic: 1 (Ironside

Abstain: 3 (Diana, Gamezrule, Erebus)

[The Stranger]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

You seem to have trouble keeping your story straight there.

My reading of the rules is that a wiseguy can join protection groups, functioning as a Townie, but cannot become a Doctor. So if you were protecting someone by yourself, you ran the risk of being killed or outed. Was there some reason you tried to do a solo protect?

wiseguys can become doctors.

wiseguys can protect solo without dying. but it wont be succesful
wiseguys can attack solo without dying but it wont be succesful

Doctor is a testable claim.

Nevermind

I don't think doctors can attack like he said n2, and I don't think any of the protectees were attacked to lead to a promotion.

Ishmael's edit + "that's because I am" threw me off.

doctors can attack ppl anyway but he now claims hes not a doctor.
whats strange however is that he claims he protected you on his own and then says cuz i am to the ishmael alluding that he might be a doctor. also that he gets credits for a protection he never did according to himself is weird, but it might be due Seamus making a mistake or due some red text? i dont know...