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    Default Re: What are the advantages & weaknesses of Japanese against Roman warfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Akka View Post
    Maybe you would like to explain how you jump from 'happening' later does not mean the technology has improved linearily with iron is better than steel ?

    I pointed that your reasoning is bogus. You can either back it up (hint : you can't, your reasoning was faulty) or correct it (this you can, by pointing the ACTUAL points where 16th century Japan and Rome had differing technologies, but in this case try to be objective and not just list some japanese advantages, blow them out of proportion, and forget every advantages the Romans could have had), but using logical fallacies like the one above isn't going to cut it.

    Well, I could point that they were far superior builders, especially military builders - able to raise a fortified encampment from scratch in half an afternoon, and to make astounding siege fortifications on the spot with astounding engineering in incredibly short notice.
    But anyway , Roman advantages never came from their technology, but from their organization. The technological advantages of 16th century Japan (save for gunpowder, but it's out of the picture for now) were rather marginal, and though it would give an edge on such or such point, I highly doubt it would deeply change the balance between the two forces.
    Not only Romans were incredibly organized and disciplined, but they also had a lot of practice and adaptability. They fought LOTS of different neighbours, in the end came out on top, and had ample opportunity to fine-tune their methods and organization. Samurais, on the other hand, fought primarily between themselves, with just a bit of fighting in Korea (which they eventually evacuated) and with Mongols (which were defeated by weather rather than arms). Not to say they were bad, but one side clearly had more varied and tried-and-true experience than the other.
    You are nitpicking. I told you that your zulu comparison was invalid and your excuse does not work with developed societys.
    I always thought that Western Roman Empire grumbled 476 and Eastern Roman or the shadow which was left of it 1453. This is news to me that Roman empire survived and instead topped all their foes.

    About military buildings. Do you know which stone base was one of the remaining structures in Hiroshima after the A-bomb was dropped there?Maybe you would then like to enlighten the rest of us, how Japanese camped during military campaigns, how they handled their logistics.How big armies they could field? Which kind of command structure they had? I can tell you about the Romans as i have been very interested of them for a quite long time. To me your post seems like that you know the Roman side of things, but not much about what you are actually arguing against?
    Last edited by Kagemusha; 10-02-2011 at 18:36.
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    Default Re: What are the advantages & weaknesses of Japanese against Roman warfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha View Post
    You are nitpicking.
    You got nerve to say this considering you have so far completely avoided every main ideas exposed, to just refocus on some little details, purposingly ignoring their meaning and then twisting them to make bad strawman. Your entire answers are built upon it, and you have the audacity to actually accuse OTHERS to do it ?

    Seems you're just attempting to "win" and not really to have a discussion. That's just pointless and childish, so I don't see any reason to waste more time with you.
    Last edited by Akka; 10-02-2011 at 21:13.
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    Default Re: What are the advantages & weaknesses of Japanese against Roman warfare?

    DOUBLE POST.
    Last edited by Kagemusha; 10-02-2011 at 22:44.
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