[EB MP]3.0 Thread - Testing and Updates

[-Stormrage-]

Nay he loses his phalanx wall protection, he is forced to separate his phalanx and enag each of my units alone. And infantry are more mobile and flexible then a phalanx i can move my infantry around and mess up his hwole army, Phalanx over here phalanx over there, each alone and sitting duck.

I feel the Best way to deal with a phalanx army is to not give him a line to attack in the first place.

[Lazy O]

Storm is so funny. :D

[TheShakAttack]

He raises a fair point though. Against a phalanx, offering battle head on is not always the best option.

[antisocialmunky]

You're better off just swivelling to non oblique angles or deploying in checkerboard. But in those cases, the phalanx player just uses 3/4 deep phalanxes to surround.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Lazy you missed another 4v4 today!

[antisocialmunky]

Lazy you missed another 4v4 today!

Well he's lazy.

http://instantrimshot.com/classic/?sound=rimshot

[Lazy O]

[gamegeek2]

Send me the replay!

[TheShakAttack]

Ok. Will do when I get home.

[The Celtic Viking]

No need, I've already sent it to him. Just forgot to say it here.

[TheShakAttack]

Thanks.

[TheShakAttack]

Sorry for spamming, but just in case ppl had this thread on auto-email alert, can someone please help me out?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...-Hamachi-error

[Kival]

Is there any reason why makedon can not use thorakitai anymore? I'm missing them in the roster.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Is there any reason why makedon can not use thorakitai anymore? I'm missing them in the roster.

Makedon has never had Thorakitai

[Kival]

Oh. I see, I thought I've seen them in their roster sometime...

[TheShakAttack]

Haha, Hegemony is going to your head buddy :)

[Vega]

Hey gg2 before you release new edu be sure you removed testudo formation from pedites extraordinary :D

[Lazy O]

Make Balaeric Slingers useful again. I need something other than toxotai to brag about.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Aren't you glad that Toxotai are useful now?

[Lazy O]

Why should I be glad that something as crap as Toxotai is the only viable option for me now ?0.o

[TheShakAttack]

I second Lazy's opinion that Baelrics are terrible. It was an interesting experiment to test with high attack short range, but its just not not workable very well. They should really be the best slingers afaik in the game as they were such historically (in EB time frame). Whilst they did use very heavy stones, it should be noted that they usually carried at least 3 different kinds of slings with them so they could switch as necessary. Rhodians are incredibly useful because of accuracy and range- baelrics die very, very quickly to archers since they need to come so close to be effective.

[Lazy O]

And scrap that shitty 60 man bullshit, make them as big as any other slinger unit.

[TheShakAttack]

And scrap that shitty 60 man bullshit, make them as big as any other slinger unit.

I do not agree here. The system that seems to be implemented is that the elite units have fewer men. For instance, Bosphorans have 80, whereas persians have 121. Also, the B islands would have a fairly low population and these mercs were in high demand. Man count can be low- please just ensure that they are effective units!

[Vega]

Baelarics useles ?! You must be kiding they are awasome if you keep them in reserve, catas are afraid of them, i really like baelarics.. dont know whats wrong :D Just keep them far from archers, they are very useful in team battles..

[TheShakAttack]

Baelarics useles ?! You must be kiding they are awasome if you keep them in reserve, catas are afraid of them, i really like baelarics.. dont know whats wrong :D Just keep them far from archers, they are very useful in team battles..

No need to be afraid of them. They need to come so close to attack, that you can just ram Cav or fast infantry into them. Whilst they can certainly be effective, I am saying, compared to Rhodian slingers, they are terrible. They can snipe catas from far far away. It is just unfortunate that B. slingers are so terrible when historically they were awesome, and in fact, they should be super awesome. They certainly did not limit themselves to heavy stones- they were just famous for their ability to use heavy stones accurately and well.

[Lazy O]

Whats the point of them being elite when they cant kill a chicken.

[TheShakAttack]

Whats the point of them being elite when they cant kill a chicken.

Admittedly a chicken is a small target

[-Stormrage-]

slingers are so terrible when historically they were awesome, and in fact, they should be super awesome.

Whats the point of them being elite when they cant kill a chicken.

I think i remember there was someone who said exactly the same thing about slingers. Hmmm cant remember who... I geuss some people have slow response rates. "Slingers suck" , people " No theyre fine" . 1 month later people"hey slingers suck"

and loooooooooooool
[21:16:17] [Gaius - 5.115.253.115]
i m not camping , its elegant strategy of waiting

[TheShakAttack]

I think i remember there was someone who said exactly the same thing about slingers. Hmmm cant remember who... I geuss some people have slow response rates. "Slingers suck" , people " No theyre fine" . 1 month later people"hey slingers suck"

and loooooooooooool
[21:16:17] [Gaius - 5.115.253.115]
i m not camping , its elegant strategy of waiting

No Storm, we are saying 1 specific unit of elite slingers are not as good as they should be :)

[-Stormrage-]

baby steps, baby steps :D