Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

[Sprig]

Vote: Populus Romanus

[Krill]

Vote: Populus Romanus

[Earthling]

The stracchi clearly have a strong majority. They will win hands down if the other smaller families don't band together to lynch them.

Yet you and your family were so interested in killing inactive basic townies. Well done.

Have to agree the mafia do seem to be greatly underestimating the strength of third party groups, but that's been said several times before. With the number of people not voting overall and the time that's been had for recruitment actual mafia gangsters should just try to finish things and win. (and the Stracchi do clearly have the most Mades because they have the most calling card kills)

[Populus Romanus]

I don't have any plans, except that I'd like the war to start as late as possible. No reason to kill off mafia while townies still have a chance(however small that might be).

Hahaha, the mafia proper are the least of your problems.

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Think, a common Italian food.

What happened to the mafia in this town? They were supposed to be intelligent. They were supposed to brutal. Not this kind of neutered flop that is lead by a one-eyed fat man. Seward's Folly? Really? YOU ARE ITALIAN!

What is this about "Well we should still lynch townies because they might hurt us"? And what is this "What will we do if the PizzaHutSlaughterhouse Alliance falls apart? What will we do then?"? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT SHOULD BE DOING:


Get it together! There is no peace! No friendship! No alliance! You cowardly bums, there can be only WAR!

[guiri]

Unofficial Vote Count
PopulusRomanus (15): Fyremarble, Niklas, DianaAbnoba, Jarema, Cahoma, HeroDiClassico, LazyMcCrow, SisterCoyote, Johhog, Schlin, Scienter, DaveShack, Gibsong, Sprig, Krill
DianaAbnoba (1): O!TheLastDays
Fyremarble (1): PopulusRomanus, Guiri
Cahoma (1): DeathIsYonder

So that makes 15 votes on a Doc compared to Don Strunzu's 2 and a couple of one-off votes. YesterDay only 26 players voted, 16 were on a Surgeon? Are we really that screwed? With 56 players remaining alive, can we at least attempt to make it difficult for the mafiosi? Many of the players I've worked with have been killed off, I expect there are others in a similar situation. I've nothing left to lose and I'm not going down without a fight so I invite all remaining Townies and pentiti to vote and join the 41-bis so we can put up the best offense and defense possible.

[Ishmael]

You do realise that by essentially admitting that you're a townie, you just signed your own death warrant, right?

[classical_hero]

That's a bingo.

[Earthling]

YesterDay only 26 players voted, 16 were on a Surgeon? Are we really that screwed? With 56 players remaining alive, can we at least attempt to make it difficult for the mafiosi?

There's nothing that players really can do about people not voting, though we've had at most half of the players voting for quite a while now. It's what happens when active players get killed off early on purpose. It is interesting to note that some who are currently in this mafia voting block could have been WoG'd earlier in the game for not placing 3, 4 votes in a row but slid by -maybe they were purposefully allowed to because they were original Mades the whole time or when they just showed back up they were convinced to join this group. There's a list somewhat around of the half-dozen or so people who, still, are currently 3 or 4 Days in a row without were voting or posting. These people aren't showing up and responding to anything despite anyone else's efforts - there's simply nothing more anyone can do. And for others who are active but not voting there's been no consistent penalty for not voting anyway - it's again not something the players can deal with through in game means.

I think some wiseguys who are active still hope to go mafia, some will die as wiseguys and lose before they make it to Made or to the right family but it's their risk. And others may already be with communists/cult are probably quite satisfied with their prospects there.

But I will say I was legimitately surprised so many of the recent dead were townies. How you could go 10 days without getting any promotion - especially those who openly participated in groups to kill people at the start, why they weren't wiseguys at least, I don't know. Inactivity does a lot of it.

[guiri]

You do realise that by essentially admitting that you're a townie, you just signed your own death warrant, right?

It's a sad state of affairs, isn't it? I knowingly signed my death warrant when I refused to take either of ATPG's pills. I was on the receiving end of a double attack N8 and don't expect to be around much longer but will do what I can in the meantime to help Town.

[GamezRule]

Meh.

vote: PopulusRomanus

[Populus Romanus]

You do realise that by essentially admitting that you're a townie, you just signed your own death warrant, right?

There was nothing to deny. It was publicly revealed that I was a doctor in the first few days of the game.

[sturmhauke]

If anyone out there is still not a mafia scumbag, join me. Scattered, our cause is hopeless. Together - well, it's only slightly less hopeless at this point, but it's better than waiting to die.

Join the Townie Defense Squad today!

[Choxorn]

You do realise that by essentially admitting that you're a townie, you just signed your own death warrant, right?

I think this may be the first mafia game I've ever played in which acting like a townie in the thread is more dangerous than acting like a mafia.

[Populus Romanus]

If anyone out there is still not a mafia scumbag, join me. Scattered, our cause is hopeless. Together - well, it's only slightly less hopeless at this point, but it's better than waiting to die.

Join the Townie Defense Squad today!

Lost cause.

[Ishmael]

If anyone out there is still not a mafia scumbag, join me. Scattered, our cause is hopeless. Together - well, it's only slightly less hopeless at this point, but it's better than waiting to die.

Join the Townie Defense Squad today!

You know sturmhauke, I think I'm willing to help you out on this one. I think if the town is strengthened somewhat it will make for a more interesting game, which is all I really want at the moment seeing as I'm just a glorified spectator (what with being dead and all). So if anybody wishes to join up with other townies, but doesn't want to risk sturmhauke being an ATPG mole, just let me know. Remember, I'm incapable of betraying you as per the game rules, so confidentiality is assured.

Also, I would like to note that this is completely independant of my work with the Communist Party - I have not discussed this with them, and I won't give your names to them or anything like that. That said, if you do want to join, feel free to let me know.

[sturmhauke]

So if anybody wishes to join up with other townies, but doesn't want to risk sturmhauke being an ATPG mole

Let's look at this logically, shall we? If the remaining townies don't all band together, we're screwed. If I am still working for Pizza, it will just happen faster. The only chance the town has is to try to form vig groups and go on the offensive, and get some doctors/surgeons backing them up. This is NOT a normal game, we CANNOT win solely with the lynch. Especially now that all the families are jumping on townie wagons, even if they will eventually start killing each other. The mafia outnumber us, at least if you remove mostly inactive players from the discussion.

[Cahoma]

There's still mafia who refuse to go with the group for some reason. Just sayin' you're gonna get infiltrated big time.

[Ishmael]

I'm not suggesting that we don't - however, you can't blame any surviving townies for being a bit paranoid by now. I'm merely providing an alternative to going to a living player for help, who is allowed to betray them, and instead offering them a dead player to contact, who cannot betray them to the mafia. I wholeheartedly support the idea of the town organising themselves, although I realise that it is probably a lost cause. Still, if you're a townie it gives you something to do, so you may as well contact one of us.

EDIT: Probably, but any mafia will realise that the 'townie' they try to out may also be an infiltrating mafioso. Besides, if the mafia have a grain of common sense they'll start trying to eliminate the other families soon. In short, they may as well pick randomly, as opposed to bothering to infiltrate a townie movement.

[classical_hero]

I think this may be the first mafia game I've ever played in which acting like a townie in the thread is more dangerous than acting like a mafia.

Because we got organised quite quickly and formed a group against a common foe. Getting rid of the common foe is better than going after each other, since it stacks the odds against the mafia. We ll technically I did not start out as mafia, but i became one, due to my actions. I am sure that most people who are mafia now were not when the game started. So it is a failure of the por town group at the start to not be organised an efficient in getting the rally cry out and getting those who could change their role to change it for good, rather than for evil.

[Ishmael]

Not to mention the "kill the communists at all costs!" mentality that dominated a couple of rounds, which no doubt had the mafia leaders (read: ATPG) chuckling.

[The Stranger]

it is clearly all Subotans fault.

[Subotan]

yes

[Winston Hughes]

Vote: Populus Romanus

[Montmorency]

Not to mention the "kill the communists at all costs!" mentality that dominated a couple of rounds, which no doubt had the mafia leaders (read: ATPG) chuckling.

ATPG is the one who started the Earthling wagon.

@ DiY: I actually believed you were town, though your survival did surprise me. Why the sudden reveal?

[B-Wing]

Sorry for missing out on the last night activity. And no telling how many votes. Had to work out of town for the past 4 days.

Anyway, I haven't got a clue what's going on at this point. Would anyone be willing to summarize the major revelations so far? Basically, who is claiming to be what? I'm a townie, just looking to become a mercenary doctor.

[Cahoma]

Sorry for missing out on the last night activity. And no telling how many votes. Had to work out of town for the past 4 days.

Anyway, I haven't got a clue what's going on at this point. Would anyone be willing to summarize the major revelations so far? Basically, who is claiming to be what? I'm a townie, just looking to become a mercenary doctor.

We're all busy lynching a doctor.

And I'm not so sure you'll survive the night now...

[Ishmael]

Sorry for missing out on the last night activity. And no telling how many votes. Had to work out of town for the past 4 days.

Anyway, I haven't got a clue what's going on at this point. Would anyone be willing to summarize the major revelations so far? Basically, who is claiming to be what? I'm a townie, just looking to become a mercenary doctor.

Essentially, everybody is openly scum.

EDIT: Also, ATPG is director. That alone should tell you what state the town is in.

[Askthepizzaguy]

2400 Plaza del Universo
Radio City building, Suite 501
Fatlington, New Jersey




"I interrupt this broadcast to bring you this important announcement pertaining to La Resistance. While the crime families have control over fair Fatlington, I urge my fellow law-abiding citizens not to give up! This fight is not over, and although you have little reason to trust me due to my familial connections, know that I am not the same as Santino, the General Manager of this station and Director of mafia-occupied Fatlington. You cannot win by force, but the resistance can be successful through guile and opportunity, and most importantly, standing united. Remember, fellow Fatlings; these gangsters cannot remain at peace forever. The gang war has already begun, their alliance will shatter, and they will become the instrument of their own destruction. Greed can be a powerful ally. While the resistance is smaller than the combined families, we are more powerful than any one family could ever be, and there can only ever be one family left standing. Our strength comes from our common interest, in seeing each other alive. Their interest is in destroying one another, across families and within a family. They wish to become the Don of Dons. This is not a fight between a weakened and helpless civilian populace versus an all-powerful collective; this is a fight between a heavily armed, veteran group of experienced police officers, doctors, surgeons, and investigators, against dozens of individual scumbags out for themselves. They have tried to beat the hope out of this city, they have done a good job standing united and scaring us into submission, but there is nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Failure is not an option. We must stand together now, or all will be lost. Do not give in to despair. Do not worry about infiltrators, the crime families already know everything they wish to know about us. There is nothing more to lose. I am not a religious man, but I do know what the purpose of faith is. Faith is a choice.... faith is choosing to believe in something greater than what we have. And it is more powerful than greed. You must remember th-"


*the radio transmission cut off, replaced only by static*

[Ishmael]

ATPG, stop endorsing the town's efforts. You're driving people away.

[Populus Romanus]

My sole request is that I die in a highly entertaining manner.