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    Default Re: French Paper Offices Bombed Over A Joke

    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Not when these beliefs are in total opposition to our ideals. While the threat of Islamic radicalism in the West has often been overestimated, it is not something that should be left as it is. It is to be utterly beat down through intellectual debate and indeed, satire. It's what put the coffin in the nail of the religious monopoly on civil affairs during the Enlightenment, and to me, one of the most valued traditions here.
    I agree that it is a problem when people don't share some of our more basic beliefs like freedom of expression etc. But I disagree that "intellectual debate" or satire is the answer to the problem. Do either of these actually engage extremists?

    Intellectual debate has its place but it doesn't really stir up the ordinary person. Things like rhetoric, identity, gut-feelings/prejudices etc will always trump it easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    With the IRA they did have a valid point that broadly speaking, the English invaded Ireland and they were fighting the occupier.
    You sound like Colonel Gadaffi.
    Last edited by Rhyfelwyr; 11-04-2011 at 12:36.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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