Flash is dead! Long live Flash!

[Tellos Athenaios]

The only thing with HTML5 is that over half of the web isn't.

[Husar]

The only thing with HTML5 is that over half of the web isn't.

If over half of the web doesn't want me to look at their page that's their problem.

[Tellos Athenaios]

If over half of the web doesn't want me to look at their page that's their problem.

... Including but not limited to the ORG?

[Husar]

... Including but not limited to the ORG?

I can view the Org on all my devices.
I'm not aware of any big flash applications here.
I know it's not html 5 but this is about flash vs html5, not html4 vs html5.

[Tellos Athenaios]

I can view the Org on all my devices.
I'm not aware of any big flash applications here.
I know it's not html 5 but this is about flash vs html5, not html4 vs html5.

Sorry, I misunderstood you, possibly because HTML5 has been so overhyped that I saw a bullish “HTML5 or get out” remark where none was intended.

What I am saying, though, is that where HTML5 is supposed to be a real competitor to Flash, in practice it is inferior in technical capabilities/specs. For instance WebM is a rather marked step backwards from H.264 in terms of picture quality, amenability to hardware acceleration, etc. That is why a video site serious about fidelity and performance can't use WebM. So H.264 it is. Except that it won't be supported by for instance Opera or Firefox. So back to the plugins (Flash), it is. Related, for 2D games the browsers have long actually been capable enough to do this without plugins (think Lemmings), but the world kept using Flash regardless.

It's the browser integration (UX), ubiquity of tools & tooling support, the power hungry nature of Flash due to a number of reasons where Flash loses out. For developers of websites/content these are all SEP.

As a result I just don't see the WWW mass migrating to HTML5, and I don't expect it Flash free any time soon.