EBO EDU Hotfix

**The Celtic Viking** · 11-18-2011, 17:51

Originally Posted by Kival

It's intended. That's not what is meant here for change and there ovbiously is not a coherent meaning about this.

That doesn't matter, it's still an unbalancing factor that needs to be removed asap. That's what hotfixes are for.

I suppose by your second sentence you mean that there isn't an agreement about this, correct? If so, that's left to find out. If consensus is reached (here defined as 5 active players agreeing, not more than one disagreeing) then it should be changed, as per the new terms of changing. Personally, I know you, me, Arjos and Robin want it gone (or at least have expressed their will for it before). I think Vega agrees as well. In any case it is definitely worth throwing out there; if there isn't a consensus, it won't be done.

**Vega** · 11-18-2011, 18:00

Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking

I think Vega agrees as well.

Yep i agree :D

**Arjos** · 11-18-2011, 18:05

Oh I disagree, just to ruin your plans! :D

**Kival** · 11-18-2011, 18:06

Originally Posted by Arjos

Oh I disagree, just to ruin your plans! :D

You need to learn to be more serious

**TheShakAttack** · 11-18-2011, 18:20

I also disagree and I know at least 2 others who do so.

**Arjos** · 11-18-2011, 18:31

Originally Posted by Kival

You need to learn to be more serious

Bah I posted a whole sources backed argument in the 3.0 thread, and what we are getting is a no fear policy, so meh :P

**TheShakAttack** · 11-18-2011, 18:59

I want to clarify a few things with regard to the above discussion. Under the terms stated above, I think we can just about make any change, hypothetically including "cata fear". That is why there are safeguards built in.

However, the "cata fear" topic does not meet the test for the following reasons:
-Not every agrees it is a "hotfix" issue;
-There is more than 1 player who disagrees with removing "cata fear" (note they do not need to be "regular");
-I consider it a "major" change; and
-AFAIK GG2 and Vartan (the 2 people who have "veto" powers) do not agree with it.

And as I keep repeating, GG2 is addressing the issue in the next EDU build. Let's wait for that please and move on to another issue. I know "cata fear" is what is foremost on most peoples minds, but it is beyond the scope that has been drawn up for reasons stated above.