Humbling courage

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

not curvy enough for my tastes...next.

The idea that we might have tastes in common makes me slightly queasy.

In any case, your analysis has been over taken by events, I don't think the elections will go ahead, and you missed one vital point in any case. The fact is, if this girl poses before elections she undermines the liberals, if she waits until afterwards she undermines the new "liberal" parliament and creates the impressions it is ushering a new era of "depravity".

The only conclusion to be reached is that there is no time in Egypt when she can "safely" take her clothes off. In any case, if you have to "wait" to do something it isn't actual freedom coming over the hill it's just a vaneer and even if it is real freedom making her "wait" to take her clothes off would forever undermine the mythos of the revolution, which would undermine Egyptian democracy for the future.

[Ironside]

The idea that we might have tastes in common makes me slightly queasy.

In any case, your analysis has been over taken by events, I don't think the elections will go ahead, and you missed one vital point in any case. The fact is, if this girl poses before elections she undermines the liberals, if she waits until afterwards she undermines the new "liberal" parliament and creates the impressions it is ushering a new era of "depravity".

The only conclusion to be reached is that there is no time in Egypt when she can "safely" take her clothes off. In any case, if you have to "wait" to do something it isn't actual freedom coming over the hill it's just a vaneer and even if it is real freedom making her "wait" to take her clothes off would forever undermine the mythos of the revolution, which would undermine Egyptian democracy for the future.

There's the minor difference between "immidiate political backlash" and "potential to move the position forward until the next election".

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

There's the minor difference between "immidiate political backlash" and "potential to move the position forward until the next election".

It's the difference between genetic variation within the species and actual evolution, attitudes among the Egyptian majority need to change before the situation for women can genuinely improve.

[Fragony]

There's the minor difference between "immidiate political backlash" and "potential to move the position forward until the next election".

If she does it now and gets killed it has an impact, if she does it after the elections and she gets killed she's an anonymous victim. Things aren't looking very good for the elections anyway at the moment.

[Fisherking]

She has a lot of guts, I will give her that.

I take it as an effort to focus on a secular type government.

Any follow-up on the backlash?

[Cute Wolf]

She has a lot of guts, I will give her that.

I take it as an effort to focus on a secular type government.

Any follow-up on the backlash?

http://bikyamasr.com/48732/legal-act...nude-activist/

threatened with lashes or prison time...

but I doubt they'll doing more than threatening only, I'm sure Egyptian clerics wouldn't want their country to be invaded by angry young man all over the world who see the nude picture (and demands more )

[Fragony]

http://bikyamasr.com/48732/legal-act...nude-activist/

threatened with lashes or prison time...

but I doubt they'll doing more than threatening only, I'm sure Egyptian clerics wouldn't want their country to be invaded by angry young man all over the world who see the nude picture (and demands more )

You know what they say, you just got to respect that. Says gutmensch. NEVER get between progressive western people and religion, they will go for your eyes.

They don't actually do lashes in Egypt though, she will probably get killed though

[Ironside]

If she does it now and gets killed it has an impact, if she does it after the elections and she gets killed she's an anonymous victim. Things aren't looking very good for the elections anyway at the moment.

Point. I was more thinking less on lethal martyrhood and more on good times to create a big controversal though. For that, you want to have some time to move your position forward.

Ridiculous. Eighty lashes and possibly death just for showing herself nude? In no rational mind can that be considered okay.

But she has corrupted the minds of many men, so they can't properly think and work, now that they've seen her nude. I'm not sure if it's more insulting to the girl or the men, even if the girl gets the burden of it.

[Husar]

But she has corrupted the minds of many men, so they can't properly think and work, now that they've seen her nude. I'm not sure if it's more insulting to the girl or the men, even if the girl gets the burden of it.

Yes, it's her own fault that she gets a completely irrational punishment because it was her who took rationality away from these men after all.

[Hax]

Sometimes I think we need to change the name of the entire middle-east to Facepalmia.

Right now, I would incline to agree. But let's look at Tunisia, for example. In general, we should also wonderjust exactly what made the Middle-East look this way. Because it sure as hell not is "Islam".

As such, it's very important we distinguish between the Islamic religion and cultures present in the Islamic world as a whole as of right now. With the recent death of writer Rafiq Tagi it is somewhat inappropriate to draw a comparison with Azerbaijan, but I suppose that in general, if women would openly put nude pictures on a blog in Azerbaijan, there is no chance there would've a backlash of the same proportions.

Concerning the Judiciary of Egypt, it's preposterous to suggest that an Egyptian court would sentence her to death; the death penalty is reserved for (high) treason, abduction, rape and premeditated murder. I have no pretensions of being an expert on the Judiciary in Egypt, but the idea that any Egyptian court would sentence her to death is, simply put, silly.