Buffy Mafia 2: A Slayer's Work Game Thread [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do you want to die or not? Stop scrambling.I was roleblocked last night and someone knows that.I am innocent.Why are you trying to defend yourself while claiming to want to die? Such wifom deserves you to be lynched.So my vote is on you.

In other words, yes, you are very much a scumbag, but the truth shall set you free, right? The truth is you were roleblocked and you just can't stand to have that happen again because you're not the killer, you're the scanner or the recruiter. Yes, reveal to me, my roleblocker friend... I won't bite. Just don't block me again and all will be well....

In responding to my pressure, the first place you'd go to defend yourself is the facts; I happen to believe you were roleblocked. I believe you think someone can step forward and vouch for you that they blocked you. And I believe you think that will convince people you're not scum.

Well, you're fishing for the blocker and voting for an obvious neutral, who is the wagon for today, to look townie. As such, you have revealed your true motivations. You're a scumbag. Killing is beside the point. You're still scum.

I don't believe you're townie, and I don't believe the roleblocker revealing to you is very wise at all.

In a word, die die die.

Okay that's three words but it bears repeating.

[Kagemusha]

In other words, yes, you are very much a scumbag, but the truth shall set you free, right? The truth is you were roleblocked and you just can't stand to have that happen again because you're not the killer, you're the scanner or the recruiter. Yes, reveal to me, my roleblocker friend... I won't bite. Just don't block me again and all will be well....

In responding to my pressure, the first place you'd go to defend yourself is the facts; I happen to believe you were roleblocked. I believe you think someone can step forward and vouch for you that they blocked you. And I believe you think that will convince people you're not scum.

Well, you're fishing for the blocker and voting for an obvious neutral, who is the wagon for today, to look townie. As such, you have revealed your true motivations. You're a scumbag. Killing is beside the point. You're still scum.

I don't believe you're townie, and I don't believe the roleblocker revealing to you is very wise at all.

In a word, die die die.

Okay that's three words but it bears repeating.

Blah,blah and blah. hypothetical accusations based on nothing.Similar to your pleas for death.Hollow words my friend. If you would really want to die.You would just accept that faith and wel..die. Your instant attack towards me at first opportunity just shows that it was never your intention to die at first place, but just to use wifom in order to get rid of the bandwagon forming against you.
It is you who need to die,die and to be more specific: Die.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Blah,blah and blah. hypothetical accusations based on nothing.

Not nothing, a deceptively small amount of very very telling data.

You just can't stand the fact that those tiny tells keep bringing you down, and I'm the one that keeps seeing them.

First, you diminish what I've said, as briefly as you can, then change the subject:

Similar to your pleas for death.

Your defense is to try to control the discussion by making this about me again. Because I'm just such a tempting topic of discussion and I'm acting strange and I did something that doesn't seem very townie and I'm claiming to be neutral and so forth, obviously people want to talk about me because I look bad, and Kagemusha looks less bad.

What you're doing is one of the most classic scumtells of them all, which is try to make your opponent look bad, and do your best to look less bad than them. Talk less, say things succinctly, focus on them and their weirdness, and by all means take advantage of an open easy target.

You've fallen for the same classic Askthepizzaguy trap, and I'm afraid you're squirming again. I only respond by gripping tighter, Kagemusha.

Hollow words my firiend. If you would really want to die.You would just accept that faith and wel..die.

Yes, this is the advice a townie would give me here. You're not interested in using whatever powers I might have against the mafia, or gaining what information I possess. You have one goal today which is to cause someone's death, and man, wouldn't it be great if it were Askthepizzaguy? He's always been a pain in your neck whenever you're guilty.

Your instant attack towards me at first opportunity just shows that it was never your intention to die at first place, but just to use wifom in order to get rid of the bandwagon forming against you.

Dear Askthepizzaguy

I'm voting for you because you want to live, even if you're being coy about it.

Sincerely, the Mafia.

[Kagemusha]

Not nothing, a deceptively small amount of very very telling data.

You just can't stand the fact that those tiny tells keep bringing you down, and I'm the one that keeps seeing them.

First, you diminish what I've said, as briefly as you can, then change the subject:



Your defense is to try to control the discussion by making this about me again. Because I'm just such a tempting topic of discussion and I'm acting strange and I did something that doesn't seem very townie and I'm claiming to be neutral and so forth, obviously people want to talk about me because I look bad, and Kagemusha looks less bad.

What you're doing is one of the most classic scumtells of them all, which is try to make your opponent look bad, and do your best to look less bad than them. Talk less, say things succinctly, focus on them and their weirdness, and by all means take advantage of an open easy target.

You've fallen for the same classic Askthepizzaguy trap, and I'm afraid you're squirming again. I only respond by gripping tighter, Kagemusha.



Yes, this is the advice a townie would give me here. You're not interested in using whatever powers I might have against the mafia, or gaining what information I possess. You have one goal today which is to cause someone's death, and man, wouldn't it be great if it were Askthepizzaguy? He's always been a pain in your neck whenever you're guilty.



Dear Askthepizzaguy

I'm voting for you because you want to live, even if you're being coy about it.

Sincerely, the Mafia.

You are completely and utterly wrong here. Do not turn this into my defence.This is about your behaviour. I have played with you long enough.That i have understood that you are starting to gain a hybris in these games. No matter what you do.You twist and turn enough so it becomes logical to yourself and then you sell it to others, who are willing to let you think on their behalf.

I had little illusions if voting you would result into you picking it up for your own defense.Which tells me only about the fact that your whole talk about wanting to be lynched was just big pile of nonsense. If you think lying about what you actually want to be done is not scummy behaviour.I do not know what is. I hope atleast the town will lynch you when you are shown to be completely wrong about me.

To be put it short:

A) You were lying to the town that you wanted to be lynched.
b) You crasped the first opportunity to turn the tide against someone else.
C) Now you think i should start making a case to defend myself against your nonsense, so the focus would turn into me, not you.

Conclusion you are scum and busted.If it gets me lynched to prove that.That is not any kind of problem to me.

[Lewwyn]

This is about your behaviour. I have played with you long enough.That i have understood that you are starting to gain a hybris in these games. No matter what you do.You twist and turn enough so it becomes logical to yourself and then you sell it to others, who are willing to let you think on their behalf.

Quoted for truth, Although its spelled 'hubris'. Which is doubly true.

Seriously folks, I know it early, but Pizza has already been busted. This is not about Capo. This is not "woe is me". This is ATPG voting for himself, telling everyone to vote for him, then telling everyone not to vote for him, telling everyone he's corruptible, then telling everyone he's an investigator and they should lynch who he says to lynch.

[edse]

Vote:Lewwyn From what I have read so far.

[Riedquat]

Where can I get the resumed version of all this blah blah thing between Atpg and Kage?

Montmorency, Lewwyn responses don't seems so off to me, except this very last post^^

[Montmorency]

Just noting similarities between how he sounds now, and when he was scum.

Pizza, long story short, is back to his usual antics. He has claimed corruptible neutral investigator. He thinks Kagemusha is scum for obvious Pizza reasons.

What I think is this: lynch Kagemusha, following his logic, and if Kagemusha is not certified Grade-A scumbag, sell 'im down the river.

[Montmorency]

Pizza, you have to stop doing this.

[Arjos]

Kage was roleblocked? Well that's a no brainer:

Vote: Kagemusha

[johnhughthom]

Kage was roleblocked? Well that's a no brainer:

Vote: Kagemusha

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't quite understand this reasoning.

[Arjos]

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't quite understand this reasoning.

Put some pressure, he was giving hints about his night actions...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, you have to stop doing this.

I don't have to stop, you have to stop me!

[Montmorency]

Yes, my lord.

Vote: Kagemusha

[Askthepizzaguy]

Kagemusha, why does a townie reveal that they've been roleblocked, and that they want the roleblocker to contact them?

Why does a townie want to vote for someone who is asking to die?

Why does a townie want to convince others to just roll over and get lynched?

What role does this particular townie have that just got roleblocked?

Well, I can answer you this much: You're not the vigilante, you're not the protector role, and you're not the roleblocker.

Given that I'm one of the investigators, what does that make you?

My guess is cult recruiter or scanner. Even better than taking out a murdering demon is taking down the head whatever you are. Convince us you're not him.

[Lewwyn]

Well, I can answer you this much: You're not the vigilante, you're not the protector role, and you're not the roleblocker.

Given that I'm one of the investigators, what does that make you?

You realize there can be more than one vig, protector or role blocker? I'm betting that most of these roles have been repeated on both sides. Really interesting that last night 2 people died and one of them seems to have been a vampire which I'm guessing is scum. You even say yourself, "I'm one of the investigators" So you know there's multiple roles and yet you specifically say the vig, the protector, the roleblocker. In essence you are trying to build a case against Kagemusha who is obviously a villager making a mistake. Honestly in these games we lynch people who make mistakes and more often then not the villagers are the ones who make the mistakes because they aren't trying to be as careful.

Also, ATPG are you you suggesting that A) you're corruptible so we should lynch you, or B) we should keep you alive because you are an investigator?

If you are corruptible isn't telling everyone in thread a great way to let scum know that they can corrupt you? In essence you want to be corrupted? If not you probably shouldn't have said that in thread. Now we HAVE to kill you because you've let the scum know that you are corruptible.

[Captain Blackadder]

Kage what's your childhood trauma? Why so defensive. You seem really defensive from what was not a lot of pressure and it is only day two

Vote: Kage

[BSmith]

Given that I'm one of the investigators...

So tell us - who did you investigate last night and what was the result?

[Riedquat]

What I feel odd is, well... if Kage is actually scum he knows better than asking is thread about his blocker...

So tell us - who did you investigate last night and what was the result?

Sorry... What? The only way I want to know who he scanned is if he got a vampire/demon/thing ...

UnFoS: Lewwyn, FoS: BSmith