Buffy Mafia 2: A Slayer's Work Game Thread [Concluded]

[Erebus]

For the record, I doubt there is any direct connection between Lewwyn and Kagemusha. Lewwyn should know better now then so publically latch onto a mason or scum buddy.

He's the guy that says "ATPG is scum, therefore Kagemusha isn't and anyone who doesn't think my way is stupid." Probably no active connection.

As for my input, all I can say is that ATPG is the easy lynch. People are still bitter or enthralled by his recent performance, and really need to get over him.

Chances are that someone scanned him and we know it wasn't Kagemusha.

The one problem I have is the claim that ATPG was roleblocked when obviously we now know he wasn't.

[Askthepizzaguy]

For the record, I doubt there is any direct connection between Lewwyn and Kagemusha. Lewwyn should know better now then so publically latch onto a mason or scum buddy.

He's the guy that says "ATPG is scum, therefore Kagemusha isn't and anyone who doesn't think my way is stupid." Probably no active connection.

As for my input, all I can say is that ATPG is the easy lynch. People are still bitter or enthralled by his recent performance, and really need to get over him.

Chances are that someone scanned him and we know it wasn't Kagemusha.

The one problem I have is the claim that ATPG was roleblocked when obviously we now know he wasn't.

Who claimed that I was roleblocked?

Kagemusha claimed that he was roleblocked, not me.

Did someone claim to roleblock me?

That person is a liar, or.... there are three roleblockers and a rather absurd set of circumstances happened last night. Let's play the odds and say they're a liar.

More likely you're just misremembering who claimed to be blocked.

[Erebus]

Oh, a scan would be the trifecta. Someone roleblock me as well and we'll have done it all by N2.


Autolycus, I told you this would happen. I said it and I said that's why I didn't want to play.

I misread this, sorry.

[Seon]

Vote: Kagemusha

[atheotes]

There were 2 kils - one by a demon and one by a Vigilante or slayer (stake).

@ ATPG - are you claiming that you were attacked last night and escaped because you were protected?

[thefluffyone93]

U GAIS.

ITSD OBVIBIOUS WHOS TEH MAFIA SKUMZORS IZ.

WE ALL KNOW ITS JOO, SEON.

[Kagemusha]

To be clear there was no language barrier.I am ok, with my lynch and only plea that you will listen to my advice once im gone and not a threat to anyone anymore. You are lynching an innocent,but hopefully the act will repay itself in near future.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There were 2 kils - one by a demon and one by a Vigilante or slayer (stake).

@ ATPG - are you claiming that you were attacked last night and escaped because you were protected?

Yes, it does not appear in the writeup but I have better.

There were not just two folks involved in the action, but three. And, it seems in this game when something like that happens to you, you are aware of the event and so are the others aware of others involved at the event.

It's like our night activities give us limited investigative feedback, even when folks aren't detectives. As for myself, I scanned someone uneventfully but on my way back, I was attacked by a "slim" figure and protected twice, by two different folks who don't know each other.

That's a whole lot of corroboration that can be accomplished. I can tell you that two folks can have an alibi for their whereabouts last night and they can even protect each other from dying. Not only that, I have reason to believe that my attacker was actually a slayer as well, due to the stake being used against me.

That would mean I can prove three people are innocent, AND I can scan.

As for myself, I can be protected and scanned. But once that's done, you can reallocate those resources to more directly town-related functions.

You have no threat from me and based on last night, I can be of more help than just revealing scans. I can also help connect the doctors to each other without revealing them to the mafia. And if I were converted later, their being able to protect each other means I still cannot do anything to hurt them.

Now, since I already know one of their identities, the risk is already taken. Your choice is to accept the gift of my help or be stubborn and kill me, in which case I do nothing further to help the town and I in fact do everything I can to harm it, because I lose when I die.

Just take my advice and stop revealing information to me, and my continued survival becomes not only less of a risk to the town, but a very large potential gain due to the investigative services I provide.

But know this townies, I've helped and been killed by you before. I'm just as likely to side with the scums if you do that rigid, ideological, stubborn thing where you only let other townies survive. That's why scumbags are awesome, they are looking for allies and are willing to look outside their own alignment for them.

Don't make the same mistakes. Use my knowledge, I beg you, and you can save yourselves from certain death.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh, and two slayers means two vigilantes, and two vigilantes makes sense here because ahem, vampire cults.

The only way to defeat them is through vigilantism because the lynch is too slow and they're expanding.

As such, your slayer is going to want that doctor protection.

You're welcome.

[Kagemusha]

So basically Pizza is offering to take you all hostage and leave yourself at his mercy. More viable option would be just to lynch him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So basically Pizza is offering to take you all hostage and leave yourself at his mercy. More viable option would be just to lynch him.

I just want to live.

1) I don't want to know anything further than I already know. What I already know is the identity of myself, a doctor, a neutral, and my scan result. It's hardly game-ending stuff. But quit telling me stuff.
2) I don't want to control night actions. Do whatever you wish. Don't make me part of the network. LEAVE ME ALONE.
3) I don't want to control the lynch. I'll keep my investigations to myself, it's actually safer on those I scan if I don't reveal who they are, because being known as scanned is likely to get you killed.

You can either utilize me to your advantage, or toss me away like garbage. I think you'll do it anyway, but it has been done before where I've farmed out myself as a mercenary to the town and not been killed off, so I know it's possible that this can work. It's a nonzero chance of victory versus the zero chance of victory I'll have if I die.

[Seon]

U GAIS.

ITSD OBVIBIOUS WHOS TEH MAFIA SKUMZORS IZ.

WE ALL KNOW ITS JOO, SEON.

OMGUS!!!!!!!!
Unvote. vote: Fluffytheterrible

Nope.

[Kagemusha]

The one problematic with this, is that you already offered me the identity of the said doctor in private conversation, which i declined. Which by the way should speak a bit about my alignment. So basically you are selling yourself as not town aligned but willing to align with anyone as long as you survive.Thus you can only be neutral as you claim, or scum like i hunch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The one problematic with this, is that you already offered me the identity of the said doctor in private conversation, which i declined. Which by the way should speak a bit about my alignment. So basically you are selling yourself as not town aligned but willing to align with anyone as long as you survive.Thus you can only be neutral as you claim, or scum like i hunch.

Foolish townie. This is why people want to be scum so bad. Working with townies is like pulling rotten teeth from a crying child.

Make yourself an enemy of the neutrals. There's lots of us. Find yourselves with no allies, and die like you deserve.

[Kagemusha]

Foolish townie. This is why people want to be scum so bad. Working with townies is like pulling rotten teeth from a crying child.

Make yourself an enemy of the neutrals. There's lots of us. Find yourselves with no allies, and die like you deserve.

So even you are ready to admit that im townie. Why are you trying to lynch a townie, oh scummy one?

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: Abstain

Do as you will. But I can't make a town-neutral alliance work when all I ever get is this stubbornness.

And trust me, you'll regret not using every resource at your disposal in a cult game. How you deal with this is an indicator of how the other neutrals should play. Should they even attempt to assist the town, or like the dead canary in the coal mine that I'm about to be, will they high-tail it out of townie-ville and just assume they're going to either die and lose the game, or end up as a winning scumbag, dead or not?

You're making very bad choices here, Kagemusha. I can't save myself, but I also can't help protect you from the cults when I'm gone. And I'm telling you, other survivalists won't look on the town as a friend here, if you kill me. Once again, town can choose to try to live, or it can divide itself along partisan lines, and watch the neutrals flee out of basic survival instinct. Learn anything from Capo, it's that a town divided against itself cannot stand, and like it or not, neutrals count as townies as far as game balance is concerned. And your "full" townies weren't incorruptible either in the last game, so you're fooling yourself if you think that regular townies are any better than I am.

Think carefully, because I'd rather be useful help, than a Cassandra who told you so.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So even you are ready to admit that im townie. Why are you trying to lynch a townie, oh scummy one?

If you were a mafioso, I think you'd have accepted my help. Only townies play in a way that harms themselves so.

[Kagemusha]

unvote, vote: Abstain

Do as you will. But I can't make a town-neutral alliance work when all I ever get is this stubbornness.

And trust me, you'll regret not using every resource at your disposal in a cult game. How you deal with this is an indicator of how the other neutrals should play. Should they even attempt to assist the town, or like the dead canary in the coal mine that I'm about to be, will they high-tail it out of townie-ville and just assume they're going to either die and lose the game, or end up as a winning scumbag, dead or not?

You're making very bad choices here, Kagemusha. I can't save myself, but I also can't help protect you from the cults when I'm gone. And I'm telling you, other survivalists won't look on the town as a friend here, if you kill me. Once again, town can choose to try to live, or it can divide itself along partisan lines, and watch the neutrals flee out of basic survival instinct. Learn anything from Capo, it's that a town divided against itself cannot stand, and like it or not, neutrals count as townies as far as game balance is concerned. And your "full" townies weren't incorruptible either in the last game, so you're fooling yourself if you think that regular townies are any better than I am.

Think carefully, because I'd rather be useful help, than a Cassandra who told you so.

No.I am not the one with bad choice.It is you my friend.Neutrals can and should help the town.You on the other hand were willing recruit for the bad guys, if not a bad guy outright.So it is your malign design that passes judgement on you.

[atheotes]

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I would love to say hello to the person or persons who visited me last night, you deserve to know who I am.

You sound very unsure about what happened - Now you are saying 3 people visited you last night and can corroborate their innocence.

You have claimed that you are "one" of the investigators and to know the identity of a vigilante, protector, and the roleblocker. Now you say you know a "a doctor, a neutral, and my scan result." which is it?

Its strange that an attack would not show up in the write-up....

[BSmith]

At this point I think I'll have to vote:ATPG. Between the two main candidates today he seems to be the best bet.

[atheotes]

Vote: Kagemusha

Why?

[Kagemusha]

Tally

Montmorency 1 (Erebus)
Atpg 3 (Lewwyn, Kagemusha, BSmith)
Erebus 1 (Ishmael)
Lewwyn 2 (Csargo,edse)
Kagemusha 3 (Arjos,Montmorency,Captain Blackadder)
Daveshack 1 (thefluffyone93)
thefluffyone93 1 (Seon)

[thefluffyone93]

Whysa everybody go for da easy vote that is Pizza?

Make no sense.
Go for the unknown factors, not the go to most likely evil scumtastic powerhouse that is pizza.

[thefluffyone93]

This will not stand!
TIE-BREAK.

Unvote; Vote:Lewwyn

YEAH!

Oh, wait.....

[Kagemusha]

This will not stand!
TIE-BREAK.

Unvote; Vote:Lewwyn

YEAH!

Oh, wait.....

Unfortunately Pizza has been acting scummy, selling information to anyone in order to get his hide saved, while Lewwyn has been speaking in defence of me.While i am town aligned. So im sorry to say but Pizza is the best call right now for lynch. If anyone wants to reveal themselves to me.I am all ears.

By the way what rules do we have concerning reveals?

[Riedquat]

umm... tempted to create a triple tie... :P


Vote: BSmith for now...

[Kagemusha]

umm... tempted to create a triple tie... :P


Vote: BSmith for now...

And your reasoning for such vote?

[Askthepizzaguy]

At this point I think I'll have to vote:ATPG. Between the two main candidates today he seems to be the best bet.

How boring!

unvote, vote: BSmith

If you're going to kill me, at least smack me around a bit first and get my blood pumping. I live for that

[Riedquat]

Unfortunately Pizza has been acting scummy, selling information to anyone in order to get his hide saved, while Lewwyn has been speaking in defence of me.While i am town aligned. So im sorry to say but Pizza is the best call right now for lynch. If anyone wants to reveal themselves to me.I am all ears.

By the way what rules do we have concerning reveals?

You can forge all you want! :P

Please clarify to me why on earth you are cleared and people can reveal to you??

[Riedquat]

And your reasoning for such vote?

I FoSed him earlier.... for... something scummy he did :P

I'm more concerned why Pizza is voting him...