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    Polar bears are doing just fine, And so are we here. You have absolutely nothing to absolutely terrify us.
    My Alaskan tea-party conservative grandmother says the same thing lol. "The polar bears are doing just fine, they're just coming to live on the land now." She forgets to mention that more people are getting eaten by polar bears.

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    My Alaskan tea-party conservative grandmother says the same thing lol. "The polar bears are doing just fine, they're just coming to live on the land now." She forgets to mention that more people are getting eaten by polar bears.
    Because there are more of them, doh.

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    haha no, I'm no biologist but I've read that polar bear populations are declining in most places. Polar bears usually live out on the sea ice and hunt seals. But because the sea ice melts so much in the summer now, the polar bears are forced to come onto the land to search for food or they risk drowning. This means that more people are getting eaten than in the past because a) people live on the land, not the ice; and b) polar bears aren't as good as brown bears and wolves at hunting caribou, etc. so people make for an easier meal.

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    You are wrong about that, polar bears are mating with grizzly's, warn your grandma as the result is really big

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    The poles are opposite in both location and composition.

    The Artic is a sea. The Antartic is a continent.

    One is a giant lake the other a giant mountain range.

    Mountains are colder than lakes. Most snow ski fields are in the mountains, and most water skiing is done at sea level.

    Also the Artic is a sea girt by land, the Antartic land girt by sea.

    So two totally different compositions with different external environments around them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic
    Average winter temperatures can be as low as −40 °C (−40 °F), and the coldest recorded temperature is approximately −68 °C (−90 °F)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antartica
    Temperatures reach a minimum of between −80 °C (−112 °F) and −90 °C (−130 °F), and the coldest natural temperature ever recorded on Earth was −89.2 °C (−128.6 °F) at the Russian Vostok Station in Antarctica on 21 July 1983.

    End of the day you are trying to say that a snowy mountain range should have the same temperatures as the sea it sits beside.
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    Your experiment still sucks skippyballs though straw Pap's. For a zero overal rise the two poles should exactly balance eachother out right (lol), but a rise in temperature would still melt glaciers and other cold things.so sea would rise despite that. Now I doubt a melting glacier will have any effect Gorerists say it's a really bad thing (he himself doesn't think so as he bought a perfectly safe coastline mansion) add said water and how would the poles still balance eachother out. Maybe, incredible as it may sound, it's all just the next watermelon's THOU SHALT NOT apocalyptic IF WE DO NOT ACT RIGHT NOW hoax and you gobbed it all up. Science is also for sale if you pay enough

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    As stated Antartic is not melting... Yet.

    Artic is floating so it can melt away and not effect sea levels.


    My statement was a thought experiment. What if the Antartic was as warm as the Artic and melted by 2/3rds? The rest has been repeated at length.

    Easiest experiment in the world is to get some floating ice mark the glass, watch it melt and see no rise in the level.

    What I cannot understand is someone as smart as yourself not even having the desire to test bouyancy. A scientific principle that goes hand in hand with Archimedes Eureka moment. In fact the principle is so well understood that not even the Catholic Church, Flat Earthers or Big Oil have ever proved it wrong. Again twenty minutes and you can prove or disprove it to yourself... Don't assume, man up.

    The Antartic isn't melting anything like the Artic. The Antartic is a 3km high mountain range larger then Europe. It is much colder then the Artic. Iff it melted to the same degree as the Artic it would be noticeable. However at present the Antartic is still not doing so due to it being at a much higher altitude on average then the Artic.

    Fragony I don't care if you currently believe or don't believe in Global Warming. I do despair that someone of your brains will not test even the most basic of principals. Things that the ancients literally murdered each other to know... How to figure out if a crown was pure gold or had a base material mixed in with it. Until Archimedes there was no easy way to figure out density. Density less then water means the material will float and the material will displace as much water in weight as the total weight of the floating material. Which means with ice the weight of the ice will displace it's same weight of water.

    1 kg of ice will displace 1 kg of water.
    1 kg of water has a volume of 1 L.
    1 kg of ice when it melts becomes 1 kg of water = 1 L
    That ice water now fills perfectly the 1 L of displaced water.
    No more water gets displaced as the ice melts.

    Do not take my word for it. Just test it.
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